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Elon Musk, millions of $$ and votes

Elon Musk, millions of $$ and votes

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shavixmir
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@divegeester said
Don’t see why it should be illegal, it’s just a campaign tactic isn’t it ?
It’s using money to buy votes, isn’t it?

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@shavixmir said
It’s using money to buy votes, isn’t it?
Is it? Other than his rockets I’m no fan of Musk, but all he’s doing is offering a raffle prize to people registering to look at something. On the face of it it seems pretty smart and if a Kamala supporter had done this the left would be cooing over it. It’s just marketing in my view.

If he was saying show me your Trump vote and I’ll send you a check, then I’m pretty sure that would be illegal.

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@shavixmir said
It’s using money to buy votes, isn’t it?
Like the Biden student loan payoff? Which was deemed unconstitutional but he did it anyway.

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@DJJ said
Like the Biden student loan payoff? Which was deemed unconstitutional but he did it anyway.
Uh no. That had nothing to do with an election.
And that's just a use of tax payer's money. Like financing the army or something.

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https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cg78ljxn8g7o

Just look at the photo.
Yeah... nothing to see there folks.

Tech billionaire Elon Musk has said he will give away $1m (£766,000) a day to a registered voter in key swing states until the US presidential election on 5 November.

The winner will be chosen at random from those who sign a pro-US Constitution petition by Mr Musk’s campaign group AmericaPAC, which he set up to support Republican nominee Donald Trump's bid to return to the White House.


Na. Nothing to see at all.

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@DJJ said
Like the Biden student loan payoff? Which was deemed unconstitutional but he did it anyway.
Deemed unconstitutional by who? This current corrupt Supreme Court?

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From the BBC (is legal or illegal what Musk is doing):

"I believe [Elon] Musk's offer is likely illegal," said Paul Schiff Berman, the Walter S. Cox professor of law at the George Washington University.

He pointed to the US Code on electoral law, which states that anyone who "pays or offers to pay or accepts payment either for registration to vote or for voting" faces a potential $10,000 fine or a five-year prison sentence.

"His offer is only open to registered voters, so I think his offer runs afoul of this provision," Mr Berman told the BBC.

The US Department of Justice declined to comment. The Federal Election Commission (FEC) has been approached for comment.

The strategy may be covered by a loophole, because no-one is being directly paid to register or vote, a former chairman of the FEC suggested.

Brad Smith told the New York Times the giveaway was “something of a grey area” but “not that close to the line.”

“He’s not paying them to register to vote. He’s paying them to sign a petition - and he wants only people who are registered to vote to sign the petition. So I think he comes out OK here,” he said.

But an election law professor at Northwestern University told the BBC that the context is important.

"I understand some analysis that it’s not illegal, but I think here combined with the context it’s clearly designed to induce people to register to vote in a way that is legally problematic," Michael Kang said.

Adav Noti of the non-partisan Campaign Legal Center said Mr Musk's scheme "violates federal law and is subject to civil or criminal enforcement by the Department of Justice".

"It is illegal to give out money on the condition that recipients register as voters," Mr Noti told the BBC.

Constitutional law professor Jeremy Paul, with Northeastern University School of Law, said in an email to the BBC that Mr Musk is taking advantage of a legal loophole.

He said that, while there is an argument that the offer could be illegal, it is “targeted and designed to get around what’s supposed to be the law" and he believes the case would be difficult to make in court.

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