@Earl-of-Trumps
You folks are making a mountain out of a molehill.
Do you seriously think someone like AOC is going to get much of anything actually done? You all are acting like she has already taken over the house, the senate and WH and maybe SCOTUS in the bargain.
Get a life.
@metal-brain saidI subscribe to Jimmy Dore on YouTube and quite frequently share his videos onto my Facebook feed .
You know all those leftist heroes of yours in congress? They are almost all fake.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jbZFO-pmJMo
I suspected this all along. I remember commenting on this forum about it when AOC was getting all sorts of media attention. I said "I haven't seen this much coverage of someone I have never heard of before since Barak Obama".
The corporate news media elevated AOC from nothing just like they did Obama. There is a reason for that.
@no1marauder saidA closed mind I see .
I listened to about 30 seconds of that foul mouthed rant.
There is nothing "fake" about AOC's support for Medicare for All. Whether it makes sense, right now, to push for a vote on it that has zero chance of passage while there is a COVID stimulus package and an overall keeping government funded bill on deck, is a legitimate issue.
Left and Right do many things wrong and are generally hypocrites . ALL should be called out and if you actually watched that video and several others on the same subject you would find your "objectivity " severely tested .
Just my opinion .
@caissad4
What I hate is the ultrarightwingnuts castigating AOC and that bunch like they are ready to take over the House, the Senate, the WH AND SCOTUS.
Just because AOC and company tout medicare for all and the rest doesn't mean it is going to happen ESPECIALLY if we dems lose even ONE of the Georgia senators running now in the vote coming up in January.
Even if by some miracle we win both senate seats AOC et al, will not be able to convince a majority of the house to actually pass on such a bill to the Senate.
The URWN's here want to put Biden in the same shoes as AOC but he is not even CLOSE to their POV.
He is an avowed centerist and would not support the AOC causes.
But none of that matters, the URWN's will scream it to high heaven thinking they may win over ONE person with low enough IQ to buy into their bullshyte.
@no1marauder saidYou are fooling yourself.
I listened to about 30 seconds of that foul mouthed rant.
There is nothing "fake" about AOC's support for Medicare for All. Whether it makes sense, right now, to push for a vote on it that has zero chance of passage while there is a COVID stimulus package and an overall keeping government funded bill on deck, is a legitimate issue.
We need Medicare for all BECAUSE of the pandemic.
The American people overwhelmingly support Medicare for all.
Zero chance of passing why? Are you claiming we don't have the money? Didn't the Fed Reserve create 3 trillion dollars out of nothing for the first stimulus? Money isn't an issue if government is already doing what they put counterfeiters in prison for.
@Metal-Brain
"After Congress passes the legislation with the stimulus payments inside, the Department of Treasury takes over to and issue bonds and notes to promise to pay back the money. So yes, most of your direct stimulus payments come from loans or IOUs in a way, but it doesn't end there"
So basically it is coming from loans which have to be paid back and THAT is called the National Debt.
@sonhouse saidWhat is your source of information?
@Metal-Brain
"After Congress passes the legislation with the stimulus payments inside, the Department of Treasury takes over to and issue bonds and notes to promise to pay back the money. So yes, most of your direct stimulus payments come from loans or IOUs in a way, but it doesn't end there"
So basically it is coming from loans which have to be paid back and THAT is called the National Debt.
@Metal-Brain
Do you think I just made that statement up?
I flipping GOOGLED it and so could you but you don't want to sully your small mind with TRUTH, you ONLY want to put out BULLSHTYE conspiracy theories as if you are some kind of expert.
@sonhouse saidNow I think that. Yes.
@Metal-Brain
Do you think I just made that statement up?
I flipping GOOGLED it and so could you but you don't want to sully your small mind with TRUTH, you ONLY want to put out BULLSHTYE conspiracy theories as if you are some kind of expert.
@metal-brain saidThere's zero chance of it passing a Republican Senate. And there are things that are absolutely essential to get passed now where compromise might work.
You are fooling yourself.
We need Medicare for all BECAUSE of the pandemic.
The American people overwhelmingly support Medicare for all.
Zero chance of passing why? Are you claiming we don't have the money? Didn't the Fed Reserve create 3 trillion dollars out of nothing for the first stimulus? Money isn't an issue if government is already doing what they put counterfeiters in prison for.
That's reality, no matter what foul mouthed screechers on YouTube say.
@no1marauder saidWhy? It isn't because of a lack of money and it isn't because it isn't popular with the American people because it is, so what is it?
There's zero chance of it passing a Republican Senate. And there are things that are absolutely essential to get passed now where compromise might work.
That's reality, no matter what foul mouthed screechers on YouTube say.
https://thehill.com/hilltv/what-americas-thinking/494602-poll-69-percent-of-voters-support-medicare-for-all
@Metal-Brain
You seem to think Moscow Mitch gives a damn about the average citizen.
You also seem to forget MM threw HUNDREDS of house bills in the trash BECAUSE they were generated by democrats.
What makes you think an assswipe traitor like him is going to change after Biden takes over?
Answer: he will NEVER change. ONE thing will change that: Dems winning those two extremely important senate seats in Georgia.
BTW, the early voter turnout for those seats are as much or more than the Georgia votes for the presidency.
That is the ONLY way the country can move forward is for Dems to win both seats
otherwise MM will throw monkey wrench after monkey wrench like he is doing RIGHT NOW with the stimulus bill, where he so far cut the direct payment to 600 bucks from 1200 last time.
He is a stain on our democracy and has been for ten years or more.
He has to go, back to the dust bin of history and history will show MM in a very bad light, just like your god king, william Barr, Rudi, DeVos, and the rest of the swamp not drained but completely filled up with yes men.
BTW, have you perhaps noticed how many of Trumps picks have been fired or resigned?
That much revolving door has NEVER happened in that frequency by ANY other president, not even Nixon was that bad at finding just the right yes men.
But hey, you love your god king and cannot see a single bad side of this sociopath narcissist with ZERO empathy, and that last you don't even think is needed, in fact a NEGATIVE in a POTUS.