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@no1marauder said
I represented hundreds of felony defendants in NY State.

That makes me an "expert" according to the usual definitions:

"ex·​pert ˈek-ˌspərt ik-ˈspərt
1
: having, involving, or displaying special skill or knowledge derived from training or experience"

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/expert

But hey I don't care if you believe that or not.
😂

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@no1marauder said
You do realize this is a "Debates" Forum, don't you?
you do realize this thread asked a yes or no question?

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@Mott-The-Hoople said
you do realize this thread asked a yes or no question?
Then it doesn't belong in "Debates" if you have no interest in actually debating it.

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@no1marauder said
Then it doesn't belong in "Debates" if you have no interest in actually debating it.
the little queer boy is afraid to say if this case will hold up😂

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@Mott-The-Hoople said
the little queer boy is afraid to say if this case will hold up😂
You really are a pathetic POS.

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@no1marauder said
You really are a pathetic POS.
why are you afraid to say whether this case will hold up under appeal?

you know damned well it wont

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@Mott-The-Hoople said
the little queer boy is afraid to say if this case will hold up😂
What information do you have that would suggest that an appeals court would overturn the convictions?

Or, maybe start with: do you know what an appeals court does?

To be honest, in the US I don’t really know.
Generally speaking, in the EU, an appeals court doesn’t look at evidence, it judges if the the proper steps were taken to reach a judgement. I presume it’s the same in the US.

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@Mott-The-Hoople said
how many think this sham trial by a liberal judge and jury will be overturned?

I do
Well, you're an idiot, so...

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@shavixmir
So I guess you're saying 'no'? Ok.

I think that Trump's case could be overturned. everybody knows that the dems only used the judicial system
to get to a leading opposition candidate. "Dirty pool" in anyone's world

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@Sleepyguy said
I'm not interested in your legal opinions or evaluations. This is just hardball politics, and I would never expect anything to go Trump's way in New York.
Because, more than any other state, New York knows Trump. They're onto him.

Something you can't even say yourself.

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@Mott-The-Hoople said
“Actually, I am in NY Criminal Law, so I don't have to "pretend". “

which side?

So, you ARE NOT a lawyer?
Jesus... no wonder you vote for Trump.

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@Mott-The-Hoople said
why are you afraid to say whether this case will hold up under appeal?

you know damned well it wont
Well, it depends. Are the Appeals courts full of dumbasses like you?

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@Earl-of-Trumps said
@shavixmir
So I guess you're saying 'no'? Ok.

I think that Trump's case could be overturned. everybody knows that the dems only used the judicial system
to get to a leading opposition candidate. "Dirty pool" in anyone's world
The courts exist for one reason.

To prosecute those who break the law.

Only fools think every department in government is after Trump for political reasons. Do you think Trump is as pure as the driven snow? No, he broke the law and got prosecuted. Just like everyone else in the system.

Rikers is full of "innocent" people.

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@Earl-of-Trumps said
@shavixmir
So I guess you're saying 'no'? Ok.

I think that Trump's case could be overturned. everybody knows that the dems only used the judicial system
to get to a leading opposition candidate. "Dirty pool" in anyone's world
It didn’t look that way from Europe.

There’s a great many things wrong with trump and using political funds as hush money to silence a porn star doesn’t seem quite the sort of trustworthy behaviour one should demand from a politician.

So, that it becomes a court case is understandable. In Britain, if you’re caught you generally just get fired…

And the court case itself looked like it followed the books correctly. Even the gag orders; one cannot have a defendant (or any person in the case) threatening, belitteling or offending the judge, workers or jury.

The judge gave objective instructions to the jury (which was picked accordingly) and they decided, based on the evidence.

And so, Marauder’s question to Mott is justified: what exactly needs over-turning?
What part of the process was wrong?

And that’s where the alt-ring starts stuttering: democrats! Rigged! False! No crime!
Utter rubbish. What exactly, in the process, was wrong?

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@Sleepyguy said
Well, yeah, he's a lawyer but his batting average is a little low with juries. Ask Trayvon and Michael Brown. But hey get a crooked leftist judge and a jury from a 90% Democrat district and no1's a great lawyer LOL.
But you rely that on teh Appellate Court sit Trump-Fans, who will just do as the Master says?

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