22 Mar 13
Originally posted by EladarNot perhaps some. All of them face police assault among many other problems and so they NEED to pay the rent just like most of us do. Legally. Your illegal luxuries are irrelevant to this fact.
Perhaps some, others sell it for other things. Those other things include things like alcohol, drugs and sex.
Perhaps some do buy drugs but that doesnt mean its legal to stop paying the rent.
22 Mar 13
Originally posted by KazetNagorraNo, I mean give them food.
You mean, give them food stamps?
Government run restraunts where the poor can go and get something to eat. Sounds great to me.
I suppose it could be near government run apartments so that they can have a place to live.
23 Mar 13
Originally posted by JS357I think you are missing the point about being hungry enough to sell yourself for food, there is nothing intrinsically shameful about prostitution, it is the power relationship between the seller and buyer that can make it something for the society in which the transaction takes place to be ashamed of.
Are there goods to exchange for sex, that we should not be ashamed to rely upon?
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23 Mar 13
Originally posted by kevcvs57OK, I get it. Such disparate power is injustice, agreed, if one side can starve the other and the other side can only submit or starve.
I think you are missing the point about being hungry enough to sell yourself for food, there is nothing intrinsically shameful about prostitution, it is the power relationship between the seller and buyer that can make it something for the society in which the transaction takes place to be ashamed of.
23 Mar 13
Originally posted by JS357I think the shameful thing is that we give money to a poor person who then uses that money to purchase the services of a prostitute. This suggests that the prostitute is for some reason just as poor, but not being given any money by the government and is forced to sell her body instead.
Are there goods to exchange for sex, that we should not be ashamed to rely upon?
23 Mar 13
Originally posted by EladarRight, so in order to be eligible for such a thing, they would need some kind of certificate. Let's call them food certificates. And then the poor could use these food certificates to get food.
No, I mean give them food.
Government run restraunts where the poor can go and get something to eat. Sounds great to me.
I suppose it could be near government run apartments so that they can have a place to live.
23 Mar 13
Originally posted by KazetNagorraWe can just serve such horrible food that only those desperately in need will come and eat it.
Right, so in order to be eligible for such a thing, they would need some kind of certificate. Let's call them food certificates. And then the poor could use these food certificates to get food.
Of course my view is that if there are poor people in a society, we are doing something wrong, and we should address that instead of trying to work out complicated ways of feeding them whilst denying them sex and drugs.
23 Mar 13
Originally posted by KazetNagorraThe poor would have to go shopping in government shops to get the food. As a matter of fact, I'd say anyone in the country should be able to go and get free food from the government if they wish. No need for certificates, just walk in and get free food.
Right, so in order to be eligible for such a thing, they would need some kind of certificate. Let's call them food certificates. And then the poor could use these food certificates to get food.
Food is more important to life than seeing doctors and getting medical attention. We want to give the poor food, not enable them to squander the opportunity to get food.
23 Mar 13
Originally posted by kevcvs57The reason why people are using exchanging food stamps for money is that they already have access to food and that there is excess. True, it may be their kid's food money that they are spending, but kids can get their food in other places like schools or another person's house.
If we live in societies where people can buy sex for food we should be ashamed of ourselves, if ever there was cause for revolution there it is.
These people aren't starving to death. We have relatively rich poor people in this country. They are so rich they don't need government assistance to survive.
23 Mar 13
Originally posted by EladarRelatively rich poor compared to...?
The reason why people are using exchanging food stamps for money is that they already have access to food and that there is excess. True, it may be their kid's food money that they are spending, but kids can get their food in other places like schools or another person's house.
These people aren't starving to death. We have relatively rich poor people in this country. They are so rich they don't need government assistance to survive.