20 Jul 10
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The key is not that Scots allow release of terminal prisoners to go home to die. Meaningless to discuss it.
The key is who arranged with whom to arrange the bogus medical prognosis so the case would fit nicely into the Scottish law.
Deep investigation of the events around the fraudulent prognosis and how it was coordinated by principles involved in the Lybian oil deal.
If in a more crass frame of mind, I would say find the veterinarian bought to provide Al Megrahi's "90 days to llive" prognosis. 😠
EDIT: Since it is now known that the prognosis which allowed Al Megrahi's release was a hoax, likely a conspiracy, and allowed a mass murderer to take advantage of a program to which he was not entitled. DEMAND HIS RETURN - so he may complete his sentence for mass murder.
20 Jul 10
Originally posted by Redmikehttp://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/world/lockerbie-uk-labour-to-be-exposed/story-e6frg6so-1225893653561
But this is just not factually correct.
Al-M could never have been part of Straw's PTA -he wasn't in an English prison.
There was a PTA set up by Straw - Al-M wasn't part of it.
"Gordon Brown’s government made the decision" - no, they didn't make the decision.
The Times isn't the authoritive source it was.
Lockerbie: UK Labour to be exposed
* From: The Australian
* July 19, 2010 12:00AM
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Kenny MacAskill, the Scottish Justice Secretary who made the decision to release Megrahi, is prepared to provide damaging testimony to the US senators on his dealings on the issue with Jack Straw, his former Westminster opposite number. As The Sunday Times revealed last year, Mr Straw told the Scottish administration in 2007 it was "in the overwhelming interests" of Britain to include Megrahi in a transfer deal as "wider negotiations" with Libya were reaching a critical stage.
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21 Jul 10
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Originally posted by MacSwainWake up. The world isn't run on pixie dust and make believe. Decisions like this are made all the time in the interest of the state and like minded business types.
The key is not that Scots allow release of terminal prisoners to go home to die. Meaningless to discuss it.
The key is who arranged with whom to arrange the bogus medical prognosis so the case would fit nicely into the Scottish law.
Deep investigation of the events around the fraudulent prognosis and how it was coordinated by principles involved in t h he was not entitled. DEMAND HIS RETURN - so he may complete his sentence for mass murder.
If you are just waking up to this fact now, I say only, "what took you so long?"
But rather than rail against it and demand childish responses, accept the fact that decisions are made that are beyond your influence and for reasons that in the end, make little difference to anyone. "Justice being served" is hardly a reason beyond anything more than simply ensuring weak-minded individuals get their pound of flesh.
Welcome to the real world.
21 Jul 10
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Originally posted by zeeblebotI support no such decision. Rather, I implore the rank and file to open your eyes and see the world as it is, rather than for what you wish it to be.
wow, the Govt swaps the Lockerbie Bomber for a sweet oil deal for BP with Libya and uzless pops up a staunch supporter.
Besides, it isn't JUST about an oil deal for BP. It's about regional influence, it's about resource allocation, it's geo-politics 101 happening right out in the open.
The man being released is a but a pawn in the game. You are getting tied up in the tactics while missing the underlying strategy behind the move.
Tsk tsk.
21 Jul 10
Originally posted by zeeblebotIt all 'works', though, if - for one moment - you accept the premise that he wasn't the Lockerbie Bomber - the viewpoint, incidentally, of a large proportion of the victims' families - and that Megrahi more or less had to be released anyway. If you're going to cop flak, you might as well cop flak and cash in too if possible. "Welcome to the real world" as uzless said.
the Govt swaps the Lockerbie Bomber for a sweet oil deal for BP with Libya
21 Jul 10
Originally posted by zeeblebotIt was discussed on a previous thread. I don't recall the exact number. Many of the families refused to accept the compensation from Libya because they don't think Libya did it. Look, if you think Megrahi brought Pan Am Flight 103 down that's OK.
what is the exact proportion, then?
21 Jul 10
Originally posted by FMFCabinet Secretary for Justice Kenny MacAskill
Look, if you think Megrahi brought Pan Am Flight 103 down that's OK.
“When Mr Al-Megrahi was brought to justice, it was before a Scottish court sitting in the Netherlands. And I pay tribute to our Judges who presided and acted justly.
Mr Al-Megrahi was sentenced to life imprisonment for the murder of 270 people. He was given a life sentence and a punishment part of 27 years was fixed. When such an appalling crime is perpetrated it is appropriate that a severe sentence be imposed.
"Mr Al-Megrahi has since withdrawn his appeal against both conviction and sentence. As I have said consistently throughout, that is a matter for him and the courts. That was his decision.”
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Of course, everyone should dismiss entirely the decission reached by Cabinet Secretary Justice Kenny MacAskill, plus Scottish court judges who heard the case and most importantly Al Megrahi himself. Why? Because this astute member of the RHP braintrust whose insight and knowledge of the situation far exceeds this collection of mental midgets who: 1-heard the case 2-evidence in its entirety, plus 3-Al Megrhi himself, says they are mistaken.
This settles it, the ultimate decision has been made for everyone. You may rest your wee weary heads now.