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How does making things more efficient damage the economy? Surely if you need less energy to make stuff and move it around the economy will benefit?

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Originally posted by agryson
Companies are already starting to cash in, it would be silly of the government not to help that along in the interest of the economy.
An across the board reduction in tax and regulation, I like the way you're beginning to think.

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Originally posted by kmax87
Why do we allow polluters to persist in such foolishness?

What point would there be to having a humvee and a 60" plasma, if you had to go around with oxygen masks, and there was no wilderness to speak of and the only way your kids could enjoy nature and the experience of all the animals that would now be extinct, would be to watch/experience them in tactile 3D high def TV??
what will we fill the wilderness up with?

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Originally posted by zeeblebot
what will we fill the wilderness up with?
Trees and animals. Crystal tents.

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Originally posted by der schwarze Ritter
If you have to subsidize "green" technologies, then they're not ready. Even worse, by taking money from one sector to prop up an unproductive one harms the whole economy. Like it or not, fossil fuels are going to be with us for some time.
Externality.
Market failure.

Look them up.

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Originally posted by Palynka
Externality.
Market failure.

Look them up.
Why don't you define "market failure" in your own words. I contend that there is no such thing.

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Originally posted by Wajoma
Why don't you define "market failure" in your own words. I contend that there is no such thing.
And that's why you're a fundamentalist.

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Originally posted by Palynka
And that's why you're a fundamentalist.
Evasion

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Originally posted by Wajoma
Evasion
No. Lack of interest.

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Originally posted by Palynka
No. Lack of interest.
That's what I said, evasion.

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Originally posted by Wajoma
That's what I said, evasion.
I said: Look them up. If you say no, why should I humour you? It's you who has something to learn. But we all know you don't want to.

There is not a single serious economist nowadays that still believes all markets are perfect. I guess you know better.

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Originally posted by Bosse de Nage
Well, 2050 is some way off.
How are we going to develop these "wondrous technologies" when we implement cap and trade schemes and throw all our money at a boondoggles like corn-based ethanol? When you hamstring the economy the way Hillary, Obama and McCain are talking about, we'll be lucky if we have enough energy to heat our homes during winter.

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Originally posted by kmax87
Why do we allow polluters to persist in such foolishness?

What point would there be to having a humvee and a 60" plasma, if you had to go around with oxygen masks, and there was no wilderness to speak of and the only way your kids could enjoy nature and the experience of all the animals that would now be extinct, would be to watch/experience them in tactile 3D high def TV??
If you haven't noticed, the sky isn't falling, instead, the air is getting cleaner (in the United States, that is):

http://www.ncpa.org/sub/dpd/index.php?Article_ID=15271

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Originally posted by uzless
2050 is 42 YEARS AWAY!

You don't think technology will be different then? You can't compare todays energy demands to 42 years from now.

Besides, if we have indeed hit peak oil, then in 42 years if we haven't developed a new fuel source then you really will have a choice between running your refridgerator or running your car with the price of gas that high!


Another non-starter thread from the dsr. 😴
Then by your and Al Gore's estimation, we shouldn't worry about so-called "global warming" either since the worst predictions won't come true until 100 years from now?

More silly prattling from the aptly named "useless."

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Originally posted by bjohnson407
Yeah! Like how education harms industry and slows technological development!

and don't get me started ont he Department of Transportation! Bunch of sponges they are!
No less an authority than Bill Gates has said as much:

http://www.gatesfoundation.org/MediaCenter/Speeches/Co-ChairSpeeches/BillgSpeeches/BGSpeechNGA-050226.htm

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