@averagejoe1 saidBecause it's a stupid question.
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After I posted that , I looked back at the words 'regional tension'. One of the weapons of liberals in this march to take over is to create tension. The signs, the nasty clothes, in your face, taking over the streets when I am trying to go to the bank to make a deposit.... Just turmoil, tension.
So, to lose the EC would lead to tension.....which ...[text shortened]... ? Just how much of my stuff, that should be given to you, is fair? This question is NEVER answered.
@mott-the-hoople saidThe conservatives I referred to in the OP are SCOTUS justices. They don't do the gerrymandering themselves.
are republicans the only party that does this “gerrymandering” thing?
Rather, last year the conservative majority ordered Alabama to redraw the maps so they comply with federal laws. Alabama chose not to do so.
Now, it appears, the same conservative justices are going to say "ok, that's fine, just go ahead and gerrymander." Thus the comment that they can't decide what they stand for. Like a weak parent who can't discipline their kid properly.
They're just waking up every morning, reliving the same day, and choosing some different legal principle on which to expand the swamp and dilute the power of voters.
27 Sep 23
@wildgrass saidYes, but who will send the troops into Alabama if the state continues to defy the ruling?
Phew. It looks like they will stick will their earlier ruling, rather than flip flopping to support gerrymandering. Much ado about nothing.
We did learn that Joe and Mott don't know what the system of government is in the US, so the thread still had some value.
27 Sep 23
@soothfast saidI've no idea how this would work. But probably if the state holds an election for a federal office using an illegal map, then they would not be permitted as legal representatives of that state.
Yes, but who will send the troops into Alabama if the state continues to defy the ruling?
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27 Sep 23
@wildgrass said“I've no idea how this would work. ”
I've no idea how this would work. But probably if the state holds an election for a federal office using an illegal map, then they would not be permitted as legal representatives of that state.
you should have stopped right there!
@wildgrass saidSince the Supreme Court usually only adjudicates points of law or constitutionality, from what I can tell it is lower courts (US district courts for instance) that enforce Supreme Court rulings. Though if Alabama were to refuse to comply with the gerrymander ruling I imagine it would still take some party with standing to bring the case to such a lower court. Congress or the president could also enforce Supreme Court rulings.
I've no idea how this would work. But probably if the state holds an election for a federal office using an illegal map, then they would not be permitted as legal representatives of that state.
Soldiers were called up in the South (ever the most lawless region of the US) to enforce the court's Brown v. Board of Education ruling to end state-sanctioned racial segregation in schools. President Kennedy ordered the Alabama National Guard to enforce desegregation in, yes, Alabama: The same state that is now in the crosshairs for yet another flavor of segregation, namely gerrymandering to disenfranchise black voters.
29 Sep 23
@soothfast saidApparently they already generated the legal maps, it's just a matter of whether they use them.
Since the Supreme Court usually only adjudicates points of law or constitutionality, from what I can tell it is lower courts (US district courts for instance) that enforce Supreme Court rulings. Though if Alabama were to refuse to comply with the gerrymander ruling I imagine it would still take some party with standing to bring the case to such a lower court. Congress or ...[text shortened]... sshairs for yet another flavor of segregation, namely gerrymandering to disenfranchise black voters.
All this talk of AI replacing menial tasks, can't we delegate redistricting? It seems this would save a ton of money, eliminate gerrymandering permanently, and avoid the biased outcomes.