Originally posted by no1marauderThe EU and the US are also free countries and can decide to financially support the governments they want. They are not obliged in any way to support a government whose main political and military objective it will be to destroy an ally, a member of the International Community.
The US and EU's commitment to "democracy" seemingly does not apply when people they don't like get elected. These idiotic-type statements are great campaign grist for Hamas; free people don't like being dictated to.
Originally posted by CliffLandinI have also posted Ahmadinejad's speech. I hope you do not assume I share this gentleman's views and stances. Neither should you assume I automatically support anybody elses views and stances I post. Simple as can be. I do not use the " ...... " for nothing. If I post my own statements and stances I do not use "....... ".
This is your standard approach. You post a number of cut and paste statements for one side of an arguement and when it is turned around on you, you claim to have never been espousing the things that you post.
I fully understand your methods even if you don't.
Originally posted by Bosse de NageAll content herein is entirely real and any resemblance of fictional characters and events is entirely coincidental.
Reading too much Artemis Fowl?
Ivanhoe: I'm itching for the trigger, obviously, but with whom to start? The pesky Palestinians? The beasts of Venezuela? Cuba? Sorting the world out is a troublesome undertaking.
"The result of the elections was to much for him ... dear, oh dear."
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Israel's Sharon suffers a stroke
Israel's Prime Minister Ariel Sharon has been taken to hospital after suffering a "very minor" stroke.
He had said he was feeling unwell while being driven home from work on Sunday and was taken directly to Jerusalem's Hadassah University Hospital.
Hospital officials say the prime minister is conscious and that his condition is not life-threatening.
The portly 77-year-old is not known to have had serious health problems in recent years.
His personal physician, Boleslav Goldman, said he expected the prime minister would remain in hospital for three or four days.
Dr Goldman - who is not treating the prime minister - denied earlier reports that Mr Sharon had briefly lost consciousness.
"As far as I know there was no problem with consciousness," he told the BBC.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/4540550.stm
I'm very bloody surprised at ANYONE being surprised Hamas is winning elections.
Yes, obviously all you hear in our media is "Hamas the terrorist organisation..."
But seeing the PLO is unable to persue legitimite political aims, the Hamas has been doing that instead.
Nearly all schools run and built the last ten years have been funded and built by Hamas. The same goes for schoolyards, play grounds and first aid centres.
Go figure why someone's winning an election.
Originally posted by ivanhoeOf course they are. And they're not obligated to pump billions of dollars to aid Israel's military machine in illegally occupying Palestinian territory and repressing the Palestinian people. But they do. And they never criticize the ultranationalists like Sharon prior to elections. At any rate, I was merely saying how stupid the EU statements were if the purpose was to influence the Palestinian elections, but it's really just to appease domestic political groups and the US government anyway.
The EU and the US are also free countries and can decide to financially support the governments they want. They are not obliged in any way to support a government whose main political and military objective it will be to destroy an ally, a member of the International Community.
Originally posted by no1marauderIf you think the EU doesn't criticise Ariel Sharon and his policies you are sadly mistaken. You are misinformed.
Of course they are. And they're not obligated to pump billions of dollars to aid Israel's military machine in illegally occupying Palestinian territory and repressing the Palestinian people. But they do. And they never criticize the ultranationalists like Sharon prior to elections. At any rate, I was merely saying how stupid the EU statements were if t ...[text shortened]... ctions, but it's really just to appease domestic political groups and the US government anyway.
In your own jargon: "Why are you lying again, marauder ?
marauder: " .... but it's really just to appease domestic political groups and the US government anyway."
We'll see.
Originally posted by ivanhoePerhaps I am misinformed about the EU. Please supply links to where Javier Solana threatened to withhold aid to Israel if Sharon won an election and I'll retract my statement as regards the EU.
If you think the EU doesn't criticise Ariel Sharon and his policies you are sadly mistaken. You are misinformed.
In your own jargon: "Why are you lying again, marauder ?
marauder: " .... but it's really just to appease domestic political groups and the US government anyway."
We'll see.
Originally posted by no1marauderThe Joker is now on the table, I guess ..... 😀 ..... have another drink ..... 😛
Perhaps I am misinformed about the EU. Please supply links to where Javier Solana threatened to withhold aid to Israel if Sharon won an election and I'll retract my statement as regards the EU.