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Originally posted by Delmer
The 2nd Amendment was to protect us from the tyranny of the state. Why is that obsolete, SQ?
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Originally posted by lausey

Do I have to read Mein Kempf to know that it is fundamentally flawed? You also say according to your research. Could you let me know what this research involves?

The link I posted has scientific backing and sources.

I personally didn't say that it was fundamentally flawed, I just pointed in the direction that other independent scientific research has ...[text shortened]... o.

I could also say that Lott is fundamentally pro-gun biased in contrast to your argument.
Excellent, lausey. Yes, I think you would have to read Mein Kampf to personally decide if it was fundamentally flawed. In the USA we are all aware of Sarah Brady's crusade. Most likely Lott is pro CCP now, but I'm not sure he was when he started his research.

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No doubt I would find flaws personally in Mein Kempf, but it all boils down to how good your research is.

I could read "More Crime, Less Guns" and not find any flaws at all personally until I research his figures (as other independent researchers have already done).

Do I need to read all of the BHPs policies to be able to figure out that they are a bunch of fascists?

Would it also be realistic to read all pro-gun and anti-gun books as opposed to reading at what other people have researched on the matter?

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I think the first question you should ask yourself is: "Why do I want to own a gun?"

Eventually you'll stumble across the words "fear" and "scared" in your answer.

Then you should ask yourself this second question: "Do people who are scared and who are in fear act rationally?"

Eventually you'll stumble across the sentences: "Like hell they do" and "Fear oppresses rationality and blocks creativity."

Then you should ask yourself this last question: "Should someone who's scared and has fear, who's not creative and isn't acting rationally be in the position of owning a gun?"


Seriously. It's not too difficult to see, if you're looking in the right direction. The US needs guns like they need bible thumpers. What the people in the US need is less fear.

Look around you. Sit back and just look around you. Are you being taught to not be scared? Or are you being pumped with fear at every corner?

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Originally posted by shavixmir
I think the first question you should ask yourself is: "Why do I want to own a gun?"

Eventually you'll stumble across the words "fear" and "scared" in your answer.

Then you should ask yourself this second question: "Do people who are scared and who are in fear act rationally?"

Eventually you'll stumble across the sentences: "Like hell ...[text shortened]... . Are you being taught to not be scared? Or are you being pumped with fear at every corner?

Why do I want to own a gun?

because I can
to shoot things
to defend myself or my family

Any one of those seems good enough to me.

And really, who business is it anyway. Unless I do something illegal with my gun, or I am a threat to someone, there is no reason to prevent me from having one unless you want to get into my bizness. I do not need to justify owning a gun to anyone.

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Originally posted by Coletti
Why do I want to own a gun?

because I can
to shoot things
to defend myself or my family

Any one of those seems good enough to me.

And really, who business is it anyway. Unless I do something illegal with my gun, or I am a threat to someone, there is no reason to prevent me from having one unless you want to get into my bizness. I do not need to justify owning a gun to anyone.
If laws were enacted banning guns, you'd be doing something illegal with your gun; owning it.

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Originally posted by sasquatch672
Del you're the big winner, that's the right answer. But the 2nd Amendment is obsolete because the government has more, and bigger, guns than citizens could ever hope to acquire now. If it came down to it, a president would suspend ...[text shortened]... hance against the might of the US military operating domestically.
It would be more of a Vietnam situation than that. Who says the military or the civilians who equip the military would allow Bush to do that? If Iraq has insurgents who can give the U.S. military a hard time, then the U.S. could do the same thing. It would be even more effective because the members of the military would have far more ties to the people and be far more likely to support them.

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Originally posted by Coletti
Why do I want to own a gun?

because I can
to shoot things
to defend myself or my family

Any one of those seems good enough to me.

And really, who business is it anyway. Unless I do something illegal with my gun, or I am a threat to someone, there is no reason to prevent me from having one unless you want to get into my bizness. I do not need to justify owning a gun to anyone.
Gets my rec.

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Originally posted by Coletti
Why do I want to own a gun?

because I can
to shoot things
to defend myself or my family

Any one of those seems good enough to me.

And really, who business is it anyway. Unless I do something illegal with my gun, or I am a threat to someone, there is no reason to prevent me from having one unless you want to get into my bizness. I do not need to justify owning a gun to anyone.
You need to defend your family against what?

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Originally posted by sasquatch672
Del you're the big winner, that's the right answer. But the 2nd Amendment is obsolete because the government has more, and bigger, guns than citizens could ever hope to acquire now. If it came down to it, a president would suspend the Constitiution and have the 82nd Airborne patrolling the streets of Washington D.C. No civilian militia would ever stand a chance against the might of the US military operating domestically.
I would imagine that's exactly what the British said in 1776: "No civilian militia wou;ld stand a chance."

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Originally posted by sasquatch672
Del you're the big winner, that's the right answer. But the 2nd Amendment is obsolete because the government has more, and bigger, guns than citizens could ever hope to acquire now. If it came down to it, a president would suspend the Constitiution and have the 82nd Airborne patrolling the streets of Washington D.C. No civilian militia would ever stand a chance against the might of the US military operating domestically.
Being out gunned is a great reson to take ALL the guns...

No, wait... What is your point?

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Originally posted by shavixmir
I think the first question you should ask yourself is: "Why do I want to own a gun?"

Eventually you'll stumble across the words "fear" and "scared" in your answer.

Then you should ask yourself this second question: "Do people who are scared and who are in fear act rationally?"

Eventually you'll stumble across the sentences: "Like hell ...[text shortened]... . Are you being taught to not be scared? Or are you being pumped with fear at every corner?

LOL! Perhaps "fear" and "scared" is what you feel when you think of me carrying a gun, shav. But it's not what I feel.

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Originally posted by shavixmir
You need to defend your family against what?
Sewer dwellers for the most part...

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