15 Apr 08
Originally posted by sasquatch672I gotta say that you are beginning to sound like one of those bitter, small minded, Pennsylvanians Obama is warning us all about. ðŸ˜
It's coming to election time. And I think that people who are thinking about voting Democrat ought to know what they're buying.
15 Apr 08
Originally posted by whodeyI'm not the least bit bitter, and well, if you think I have a small mind, I don't really give a damn. I put myself through college, I played by the rules, and I've reaped the rewards. I really don't care to pay someone's way when they don't want to work as hard as I have.
I gotta say that you are beginning to sound like one of those bitter, small minded, Pennsylvanians Obama is warning us all about. ðŸ˜
15 Apr 08
Originally posted by sasquatch672Easy now, I was just having some fun with a stupid quote from Obama that stereotypes people like yourself.
I'm not the least bit bitter, and well, if you think I have a small mind, I don't really give a damn. I put myself through college, I played by the rules, and I've reaped the rewards. I really don't care to pay someone's way when they don't want to work as hard as I have.
15 Apr 08
Originally posted by sasquatch672ouch!
So the property taxes for this house were calculated to be $16,700 a year. Doing the math, that's $1391.67 a month, or about 45% of the monthly principal and interest.
even over here in communist Britain (as some of you think of it), I thought my council tax was high at 1911 GBP per year (for band F)
Bus drivers over here don't get that much, but they are now run by private companies. I don't know what wages were like when they were run by our local councils.
It looks like they want more in London though
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/london/7276519.stm
15 Apr 08
Originally posted by sasquatch672You sound like a veritable class warrior looking down his nose in small minded exasperation at a mere bus driver who has served the community for 20 years or more. I suppose the politics of envy works in all directions, up and down, right and left, yes? You probably see yourself as a "rugged individualist", but you come across as merely bitter and selfish, and not well versed in the rights and responsibilities - indeed, the reality - of living in a democracy
I'm not the least bit bitter, and well, if you think I have a small mind, I don't really give a damn. I put myself through college, I played by the rules, and I've reaped the rewards. I really don't care to pay someone's way when they don't want to work as hard as I have.
15 Apr 08
Originally posted by FMFSocialism stifles innovation. Again - why try to achieve when you can make $100,000 driving a bus? People who create - jobs, products, money - that's who capitalism rewards. Socialist policies go against the laws of nature. Socialist policies reward inefficiency and idleness, and destroy wealth and opportunities to create more wealth.
You sound like a veritable class warrior looking down his nose in small minded exasperation at a mere bus driver who has served the community for 20 years or more. I suppose the politics of envy works in all directions, up and down, right and left, yes? You probably see yourself as a "rugged individualist", but you come across as merely bitter and ...[text shortened]... ell versed in the rights and responsibilities - indeed, the reality - of living in a democracy
Here's a question for you. Let's say a guy builds a company. He creates a hundred jobs that pay $50,000 a year on average. He's just created five million dollars of wealth. Does it make sense to you that the government should tax him heavily, to redistribute his wealth to uncreative, unproductive members of the community? OR - should he be allowed to keep his money and create more jobs and more wealth?
I'm not even addressing this to you, really. You've got your mind made up and while you've proven yourself quite capable of slinging insults and making vague threats of violence, what you cannot do is argue the merits of your case. Because there are none.
I don't have a personal animus toward bus drivers, or toll takers, or whatever other low-level government functionaries are out there sleeping on the job right now. The world needs them, and the government should allow the market to set their labor rates. But it doesn't do that. The policies that created this bloated, stifling welfare state must be disavowed.
And you can say whatever you want about what I think. The fact is that people from all over the world are streaming in to my country for the opportunities that exist because the right-thinking, capitalist portion of my country believes the same things I do.
15 Apr 08
Originally posted by FMFSo romantic, the bus driver serving the community - for the greater goodness of the common, no doubt.
You sound like a veritable class warrior looking down his nose in small minded exasperation at a mere bus driver who has served the community for 20 years or more. I suppose the politics of envy works in all directions, up and down, right and left, yes? You probably see yourself as a "rugged individualist", but you come across as merely bitter and ...[text shortened]... ell versed in the rights and responsibilities - indeed, the reality - of living in a democracy
Actually he was doing it for a salary, and a bunch of cushy benefits.
Actually he was doing it for himself.
15 Apr 08
Originally posted by aging blitzerThose taxes are quite high for local taxes. How does Britain work? Do you have a national tax as well, or shire tax?
ouch!
even over here in communist Britain (as some of you think of it), I thought my council tax was high at 1911 GBP per year (for band F)
Bus drivers over here don't get that much, but they are now run by private companies. I don't know what wages were like when they were run by our local councils.
It looks like they want more in London though
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/london/7276519.stm
15 Apr 08
Originally posted by sasquatch672Party like it's 1952. 😵
Socialist policies go against the laws of nature. Socialist policies reward inefficiency and idleness, and destroy wealth and opportunities to create more wealth.
Having some public services is not the same as having socialism. That type of absolutist views of public vs private is dead. Shame some people still loath to bury it.
The stench is unbearable.
15 Apr 08
Originally posted by PalynkaYour entire continent is suffering under a state of managed decline because of socialism's failed policies. Again - no logical arguments for your view, just bashing mine.
Party like it's 1952. 😵
Having some public services is not the same as having socialism. That type of absolutist views of public vs private is dead. Shame some people still loath to bury it.
The stench is unbearable.
15 Apr 08
Originally posted by sasquatch672Our entire continent has been doing quite well, actually. Perhaps you'd like to revise your facts?
Your entire continent is suffering under a state of managed decline because of socialism's failed policies. Again - no logical arguments for your view, just bashing mine.
Oh, I see. You've been spoon-fed some propaganda on how the EU economy is collapsing for what? 10? 15 years? Well, it's still here. Still with the largest exporter in the world. Still producing more than 30% of the world's output and with the longest lived and healthiest people in the world. Much like the Euro is doing fine, despite the doomsday predictions from across the pond since year 1.
15 Apr 08
Originally posted by sasquatch672Strike out the things that dont apply.
Allegheny County has property taxes half again as high as Camden County NJ
In Allegheny County :-
The schools are better resourced,
More kids graduate and go to college,
The place generally looks nicer,
They have less crime,
You feel safer,
You're glad you're living there,
Than in Camden County.
15 Apr 08
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Originally posted by sasquatch672How many "I"'s did you use in that rant? You sure put the I in American!
I'm not the least bit bitter, and well, if you think I have a small mind, I don't really give a damn. I put myself through college, I played by the rules, and I've reaped the rewards. I really don't care to pay someone's way when they don't want to work as hard as I have.