28 Nov 05
Originally posted by AmauroteACHIEVEMENT - The death of endevour and the birth of disgust
I would steal the cake, steal some more cake, sell it, steal and sell more and more, buy a grand house and wear a greatcoat made of gold leaf, then make a living as a consultant informing thieves that theft is unforgivable in our capitalist society, and that if only they were as virtuous and thrifty as me they would certainly be as rich and successful.
Ambrose Bierce (1842-c.1914)
29 Nov 05
Originally posted by sonhouseYes, thats why I think its ok for the beggar to steal the cake.
Or to reverse the view, the fat man walks by a starving man on the
sidewalk, obviously almost dying, is he not at fault for not offering
some of his cake to said dying man whether the poor man tries to
steal it or not?
30 Nov 05
Originally posted by LordOfTheChessboardIf the fat dude isn't walking by, say he's in another country eating his cake, then it would not be ok for the beggar to steal the cake?
Yes, thats why I think its ok for the beggar to steal the cake.
Therefore are you saying a close proximity makes theft ok and if the big guy is outside a certain distance he's safe?
What is that distance? where is the line between theft ok and theft not ok.
30 Nov 05
Originally posted by WajomaAre you feeling guilty???😀
If the fat dude isn't walking by, say he's in another country eating his cake, then it would not be ok for the beggar to steal the cake?
Therefore are you saying a close proximity makes theft ok and if the big guy is outside a certain distance he's safe?
What is that distance? where is the line between theft ok and theft not ok.
30 Nov 05
No it was a serious question, what role does proximity play in your scenario. IMHO it is never ok to steal.
Some of the replies seem to intimate that it's the fat guys and the near death guys "nearness" that makes the difference, or are all over weight people all over the world "at fault" (as per one reply)
If they are, we need to define overweight. If they aren't, we need to define what is the area around a starving person a fat person must avoid in order to not have their cake stolen and for you to think that the theft is "ok"..
30 Nov 05
Originally posted by WajomaOf course proximity does not matter at all. If the beggar is starving to death he has the right to steal his food if no one will give it to him.
No it was a serious question, what role does proximity play in your scenario. IMHO it is never ok to steal.
Some of the replies seem to intimate that it's the fat guys and the near death guys "nearness" that makes the difference, or are all over weight people all over the world "at fault" (as per one reply)
If they are, we need to define overwei ...[text shortened]... ust avoid in order to not have their cake stolen and for you to think that the theft is "ok"..
So if you where starving to death and had the opportunity to steal some food of a fat guy you would choose to die?
03 Dec 05
Originally posted by LordOfTheChessboardHe does not have a right, a right is the soveriegnty to act without the permission of others. Niether is it "ok". As an act of desperation it may be understandable.
Of course proximity does not matter at all. If the beggar is starving to death he has the right to steal his food if no one will give it to him.
So if you where starving to death and had the opportunity to steal some food of a fat guy you would choose to die?
So if proximity doesn't matter then the other condition is being fat. You think it is "ok" to steal, in your opinion is it only ok to steal from fat people, do you have a concise definition of what is fat?
03 Dec 05
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Originally posted by LordOfTheChessboardWas it a chocolate cake?Where was the owner?🙂
You were wronged,angry at society, and you are being killed.There was a yummy cake. Is it right for you to eat the cake even though you know you'll proberbly die? (if you don't others could also die)