Is "Jewish" a race?

@suzianne said
Here's what some people here are missing.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Who_is_a_Jew%3F

The term "Jew" lends itself to several definitions beyond simply denoting one who practices Judaism. The historical Israelites and/or Hebrews, who promulgated Judaism, were not simply a homogeneous assemblage united by a common ideology, that being the Jewish religion; they constitu ...[text shortened]... re descended from historical Israelites and/or Hebrews, regardless of their intercorrelation.

YouTube : Oz clip

I am Jew, he is Cossack. In my community he is feared for his savagery.

@shavixmir said
That’s not what I was taught. And it sounds to me like a load of old bollocks.

I believe the Greeks named it a Palestine (or a form of it) and referred to the people there as Syrians or Palestine Syrians. Or something like that.

But the people living there weren’t Greek.

@earl-of-trumps said
No one can say for sure about the Philistines being Greek.

https://greekreporter.com/2019/07/04/ancient-greeks-the-biblical-philistine-enemies-of-jews-dna-study-claims/

Scientists of the Max Planck Institute for the Science of Human History in Jena, Germany. conducted DNA sequencing of ten Philistine skeletons found that they were a genetically distinct community, a New Scientist feature says.

Around 1200 BC, in at least one key Philistine city there was an inflow of south European genes, suggesting a surge of Greek immigrants to the region, says Michal Feldman of the Max Planck Institute.

@vivify
"But let's get semantic: is "Jewish" an actual race?
Technically, yes. Original Jews are Arabs whose father is Abraham. All Arabs are from their father Abraham. The blood-line split of race comes from their mothers. Jews are born through the blood-line of Isaac, whose father was Abraham and Isaac's mother Sarah, Abraham's wife. All other Arabs are born through Ishmael, whose father was also Abraham, but Ishmael was born by a different mother than Sarah, who was not Hebrew. So, Jews do have a different blood-line than other Arabs through their original mothers.
Neither look like white Europeans to me. I feel Whoopi did need to apologize as what she said was incorrect. My personal opinion.

@kingdavid403 said
@vivify
"But let's get semantic: is "Jewish" an actual race?
Technically, yes. Original Jews are Arabs whose father is Abraham. All Arabs are from their father Abraham. The blood-line split of race comes from their mothers. Jews are born through the blood-line of Isaac, whose father was Abraham and Isaac's mother Sarah, Abraham's wife. All other Arabs are b ...[text shortened]... s to me. I feel Whoopi did need to apologize as what she said was incorrect. My personal opinion.

@kingdavid403 said
@vivify
"But let's get semantic: is "Jewish" an actual race?
Technically, yes. Original Jews are Arabs whose father is Abraham. All Arabs are from their father Abraham. The blood-line split of race comes from their mothers. Jews are born through the blood-line of Isaac, whose father was Abraham and Isaac's mother Sarah, Abraham's wife. All other Arabs are b ...[text shortened]... s to me. I feel Whoopi did need to apologize as what she said was incorrect. My personal opinion.

@kingdavid403 said
@vivify
"But let's get semantic: is "Jewish" an actual race?
Technically, yes. Original Jews are Arabs whose father is Abraham. All Arabs are from their father Abraham. The blood-line split of race comes from their mothers. Jews are born through the blood-line of Isaac, whose father was Abraham and Isaac's mother Sarah, Abraham's wife. All other Arabs are b ...[text shortened]... s to me. I feel Whoopi did need to apologize as what she said was incorrect. My personal opinion.

https://www.science.org/content/article/jews-and-arabs-share-recent-ancestry

More than 70% of Jewish men and half of the Arab men whose DNA was studied inherited their Y chromosomes from the same paternal ancestors who lived in the region within the last few thousand years.

@athousandyoung said
I don’t know that you can call Abraham an Arab...

@vivify said
Muslims (who are mostly Arab) claim to be descendants of Abraham, though they claim lineage through his first-born Ishmael rather than the younger son, Isaac.

@athousandyoung said
Yes. Abraham was a Semite and his descendants became Jews and Arabs. Slightly different than Abraham being an Arab himself.

@athousandyoung said
What is often called the “West Bank” is Judah, the ancestral homeland of the Jews. Palestine is the Gaza Strip and surrounding areas. Palestine is the same word as Philistine but pronounced with a different accent and vowels (words back then didn’t have vowels).

In ancient times the Greeks were expanding all over the Med. They fought the Trojan War, colonized sou ...[text shortened]... ans are Semitic in the same way Mexicans are Latin - through cultural subjugation and sexual mixing.

@shavixmir said
Naaa, I’m pretty sure that when the Greeks, around 600BC pulled up around Philistine way, there were people already living there and that the Greeks gave them the name we now use (or philistine as you mention).

I agree that they didn’t speak Palestinian arab until the 7th century.
But only the trading classes spoke Greek before the Romans came.

@sh76 said
As an Ashkenazi Jew of German, Polish and Russian descent, I am absolutely both a white person and a Jewish person.

Frankly, in a vacuum, I don't have an inherent problem with what Whoopi said (nor do I think she hates Jews).

In context, though, the term "racism" has been overused and abused and broadened by everyone and everything so badly over the past few years that to ...[text shortened]... eneral predilection on these things, I am NOT in favor of suspending her over these remarks, though.