Is Mike Pence "Too Honest"?

@no1marauder said
To clarify so that no one would ever make such a crackpot argument again.

The idea that the Framers would leave the VP as the sole judge of the electors in his own election is preposterous.

@mott-the-hoople said
no one said that, EXCEPT YOU.

the vp did have the power to return it to the states, where the power rightly lies

try again shytweasel

@no1marauder said
Most of the other Republicans running against Trump are too terrified of electoral retribution to criticize his election overturning antics at all; several have vowed to pardon him.

Pence might be a fundamentalist fanatic, but his refusal to kowtow to Trump's demands on January 6, 2021 averted a Constitutional crisis; it also destroyed his future in the Republican party as well as putting him in physical danger that day.

He has earned some praise for that.

@no1marauder said
Trump's been indicted; I believe it would be inappropriate for a Presidential candidate to say he's guilty. It would also give his lawyers ammo for a motion to change venue or even dismiss based on an alleged taint of the jury pool.

@no1marauder said
Even Eastman (or Co-conspirator 2) who originally pushed the idea admitted no court would accept it and if it went to the SCOTUS it would be unanimously rejected. See my second post in this thread.

@vivify said
This is no show of integrity, Pence simply has nothing to lose since he's now a pariah in the GOP.

Pence had plenty of time to denounce Trump in the months leading up to the insurrection. He was also fully aware of Trump's plot as he was supposed to be an integral part of it...yet did nothing to stop it; instead, he helped it along, like this fact-checked Op-ed full of lie ...[text shortened]... ot inclined to praise a guy who stood up at the last minute against an insurrection he helped cause.

@mott-the-hoople said
There was no insurrection

@vivify said
Insurrection: a violent uprising against an authority or government.

Jan 6th: a violent uprising against the government.

@mott-the-hoople said
who has been charged with insurrection…fool

@vivify said
So far, over 1,000 Trump supporters were charged regarding Jan 6th, including Trump himself.

@mott-the-hoople said
LOL…what possible difference does eastmans opinion make?

You act like this has never happened before, and like congress didnt MAKE LAWS concerning this AFTER the fact.

@mott-the-hoople said
isnt it sad when you get caught up in your lying so much that you have to post stupid things?

Is Pence too honest?
No. He’s a politician. By definition he is therefore a lying weasle.

Can a vice-president overturn an election result?
Don’t be fukking stupid. In the normal world a single person or role can never have that much power. Obviously I have no idea what the situation is in the US, by what I’ve witnessed there in the last 10 years, I wouldn’t be suprised if they had a kabal of squirls in some oversight sub-committee with the power to nuke Australia.
But in the normal world: don’t be bloody ridiculous.

As for the VP having the power to hand the result back to a State… what would be the point? The State gives a result, that group of unelected whoevers vote for the president. Handing that result back to the people who gave the result is pointless.
It’s like saying: “Dad says, no more sweeties today. But, if you disagree with his sweety-verdict, hand the decision back to dad.”

Madness. A bureaucratic cesspit of stupidity, if it even exists, which I doubt. But it is the US, so there might be some sub-committee of drunk swans with the power to hail aliens from Area 51 to enact some pre-1835 federal ruling on electoral pre-reform.

Who knows?

From an international perspective: the republicans lost the election fair and square.
trump has done everything he can to undermine that result. trump supporters stormed the parliament and trump has said he excuses them.

He quite rightly should be charged. This is not some small little hiccup, this is a politician trying to undermine democracy. Not acceptable.

@mott-the-hoople said
who has been charged with insurrection…fool

@vivify said
https://www.npr.org/2023/03/25/1165022885/1000-defendants-january-6-capitol-riot

1,000 people have been charged for the Capitol riot.