21 Dec 17
Originally posted by @mott-the-hoopleBy that logic, no tax levied on earnings is mandatory.
Medicare tax payment is not mandatory for all!
21 Dec 17
Originally posted by @mott-the-hoopleMaybe when you get to the SCOTUS, you can correct them but they have already ruled against both the arguments you made in this post.
When ACA was passed they called the mandate a "penalty" because a tax has to be voted on. Congress is the only way a tax can be levied. Congress never authorized that "tax".
The SCOTUS changed the wording to tax AFTER aca had passed. It is unconstitutional on those grounds alone. Read the entire article...don't just cherry pick...makes you look inferior
BTW...paying subsidies in states that didn't expand Medicare is also illegal.
21 Dec 17
Originally posted by @no1maraudersmarting are you... LOL
Maybe when you get to the SCOTUS, you can correct them but they have already ruled against both the arguments you made in this post.
21 Dec 17
Originally posted by @mott-the-hoople"It is unconstitutional on those grounds alone."
The SCOTUS changed the wording to tax AFTER aca had passed. It is unconstitutional on those grounds alone.
Not according to the Supreme Court.
21 Dec 17
Originally posted by @vivifyjust hasn't went before them yet...
"It is unconstitutional on those grounds alone."
Not according to the Supreme Court.
https://www.newsmax.com/Finance/Elias/ACA-Obamacare-unconstitutional-court/2013/12/20/id/542977/
22 Dec 17
Originally posted by @mott-the-hoopleTry to use more recent links.
just hasn't went before them yet...
https://www.newsmax.com/Finance/Elias/ACA-Obamacare-unconstitutional-court/2013/12/20/id/542977/
22 Dec 17
Originally posted by @mott-the-hoopleI don't know if you're aware of this mott, but no1marauder is a pretty sharp lawyer, and knows at least as much about this as you do. Sometimes, even more! 😲
smarting are you... LOL
23 Dec 17
Originally posted by @eladarYes...for all intents and purposes ACA is being phased out. The liberals here think because it doesn't happen in one fell swoop it isn't, but it is. They often are detached from reality.
So now you think Obama Care does need the mandate so now that the mandate is gone so is obama care.
Originally posted by @no1marauderNot only was it a bad idea, it was a horrible idea having the criminal organization, known as the IRS, in control of it considering they just lost a law suit to conservatives regarding targeting them come tax time.
I never thought the individual mandate was desirable or necessary and I suspect that the ACA can survive its demise if the Trump administration stops trying to sabotage it by other means.
Just imagine not being able to get that bypass surgery cuz of their politics.
It's just too bad that the court case proceedings are sealed. Apparently those in the IRS fear for their lives if people find out just how corrupt they are.
23 Dec 17
Originally posted by @whodeyYour post doesn't make any sense, but that is typical. Congress imposed a tax; who else BUT the IRS was supposed to enforce it? And how, pray tell, could enforcing the mandate have anything to do with "not get[ting] that bypass surgery"?
Not only was it a bad idea, it was a horrible idea having the criminal organization, known as the IRS, in control of it considering they just lost a law suit to conservatives regarding targeting them come tax time.
Just imagine not being able to get that bypass surgery cuz of their politics.
It's just too bad that the court case proceedings are sealed. Apparently those in the IRS fear for their lives if people find out just how corrupt they are.
23 Dec 17
Originally posted by @no1marauderWRONG...congress did not impose a tax, the ACA law included a penalty, not a tax. SCOTUS rewrote (illegally) the law.
Your post doesn't make any sense, but that is typical. Congress imposed a tax; who else BUT the IRS was supposed to enforce it? And how, pray tell, could enforcing the mandate have anything to do with "not get[ting] that bypass surgery"?