14 Oct 23
@rajk999 saidAre you Jewish?
Underdogs, sad to say. .. they always get a raw deal. Sometimes they deserve it and sometimes they dont. The trick is to figure out where you are in the world, what place you have in the scheme of things. The Palestinians have not yet figured it out.
So you can call it puppet this, that and the other. The point is that people gravitate towards success, towards peace, t ...[text shortened]... eclaim every square inch of land that the Bible marked off as theirs. Nothing is going to stop them.
14 Oct 23
@metal-brain saidNo, East Indian, and neither am I supporting the Jews wrongdoing and they are guilty of many atrocities, like occupying land which was not theirs. Personally I have had some interaction with Jews and I can see why people dont like them. They can be selfish and greedy. What I have not seen them do is barge into the homes of civilians and start shooting, or strap dynamite to your chest and detonate it in a crowded bus. Their methods [although sometimes sinister] are more humane.
Are you Jewish?
14 Oct 23
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@rajk999 saidGreedy, selfish and sinister any other hackneyed antisemitic tropes you would like to fling against the forum wall?
No, East Indian, and neither am I supporting the Jews wrongdoing and they are guilty of many atrocities, like occupying land which was not theirs. Personally I have had some interaction with Jews and I can see why people dont like them. They can be selfish and greedy. What I have not seen them do is barge into the homes of civilians and start shooting, or strap dynamite to ...[text shortened]... hest and detonate it in a crowded bus. Their methods [although sometimes sinister] are more humane.
The Israelis are just as liable to resort to terrorist methods if needed. Google ‘The Irgun’
Terrorism is simply the strategy of the strategically weak, Israel doesn’t have to burst into the doors of their enemies houses with gun or knife they can burst in through the roof with a missile or bomb packed with high explosives
14 Oct 23
@kevcvs57 saidNot arguing with that. There was a man in the bible [which I know you dont believe], called Gamaliel. He warned the Pharisees to stay away from interfering with the disciples of Christ because if indeed Jesus is the Son of God, then you would be fighting against God. There is no winning that war. Same with the Palestinians. They are going to lose, and the Jews will reclaim all the land which they had before the Roman Empire took them down.
Greedy, selfish and sinister any other hackneyed antisemitic tropes you would like to fling against the forum wall?
The Israelis are just as liable to resort to terrorist methods if needed. Google ‘The Irgun’
Terrorism is simply the strategy of the strategically weak, Israel doesn’t have to burst into the doors of their enemies houses with gun or knife they can burst in through the roof with a missile or bomb packed with high explosives
I can bet that there were smart educated Palestinians [who read the bible] back in 1890 when the Zionists started buying up large tracts of land who could have, or would have told the indigenous Arabs that this thing is not going to end well. Again in 1948 when the British left and Israel won that first war, they would have said the same.
But some people believe in their blind stupid loyalty, and they will go to their grave following after their cause. In this matter you are retarded and at a disadvantage if you dont believe what the bible says about the Jews and what is going to happen. It is going down now.
14 Oct 23
@rajk999 saidI think you are a religious fanatic. You think god wants Jews to reclaim all the land. If that is the case why did god create the Palestinians?
Not arguing with that. There was a man in the bible [which I know you dont believe], called Gamaliel. He warned the Pharisees to stay away from interfering with the disciples of Christ because if indeed Jesus is the Son of God, then you would be fighting against God. There is no winning that war. Same with the Palestinians. They are going to lose, and the Jews will reclaim ...[text shortened]... dont believe what the bible says about the Jews and what is going to happen. It is going down now.
If Israel does not like Hamas they should not have created Hamas. Why wont Israel own up to their meddling to create Hamas that blew up in their face?
14 Oct 23
@metal-brain saidWrong. The religious fanatics are the ones who strap bombs to themselves and detonate it in crowed Jewish restaurants, shouting 'Allah O Ackbar'.
I think you are a religious fanatic. You think god wants Jews to reclaim all the land. If that is the case why did god create the Palestinians?
If Israel does not like Hamas they should not have created Hamas. Why wont Israel own up to their meddling to create Hamas that blew up in their face?
As for the rest of your questions, you will get a chance to ask God in person.
14 Oct 23
@rajk999 saidYou are violating one of the ten commandments.
Wrong. The religious fanatics are the ones who strap bombs to themselves and detonate it in crowed Jewish restaurants, shouting 'Allah O Ackbar'.
As for the rest of your questions, you will get a chance to ask God in person.
Thou shalt not covet thy neighbor's goods. Land contains goods, so it is the same thing. Zionists covet land and are sinning every time they scheme to take land.
Jews believe that God gave the Ten Commandments to Moses on two tablets of stone at Mount Sinai. They are written in Hebrew, which is the original Jewish language. This event is recorded in Jewish scriptures, as well in the Christian Bible.
Zionism is a violation of their own religious rules.
14 Oct 23
@rajk999 said" They are going to lose, and the Jews will reclaim all the land which they had before the Roman Empire took them down."
Not arguing with that. There was a man in the bible [which I know you dont believe], called Gamaliel. He warned the Pharisees to stay away from interfering with the disciples of Christ because if indeed Jesus is the Son of God, then you would be fighting against God. There is no winning that war. Same with the Palestinians. They are going to lose, and the Jews will reclaim ...[text shortened]... dont believe what the bible says about the Jews and what is going to happen. It is going down now.
Let's assume you are right and that is destiny. Does the bible say when? How do you know that will not happen in 1000 years? And if it is destiny why are people going though a lot of effort to do what is supposed to be fate anyway? If it will happen 1000 years from now all efforts are in vain, right?
If you really honestly and truly believe in prophesies why even try to talk people into supporting Zionism? It will not make any difference if the future is set in stone. It cannot be stopped. Right?
14 Oct 23
@rajk999 saidThe German Nazis Holocaust and US oil barons gave Palestine to the Jews the first unwittingly the second with a very direct geopolitical purpose in mind
Not arguing with that. There was a man in the bible [which I know you dont believe], called Gamaliel. He warned the Pharisees to stay away from interfering with the disciples of Christ because if indeed Jesus is the Son of God, then you would be fighting against God. There is no winning that war. Same with the Palestinians. They are going to lose, and the Jews will reclaim ...[text shortened]... dont believe what the bible says about the Jews and what is going to happen. It is going down now.
Agnostic Libs like me just think after millennia of persecution by Christian’s and Muslims the Jews deserve a place that they can call home, somewhere that will take them in and protect them from the next bunch of Nazis.
I do not simply not believe in your holy books I despise them all and pity the idiots who are stupid enough to think that a god if it did exist would have a plan and set of instructions for a bunch of, albeit, very clever, primates
14 Oct 23
@metal-brain saidThe process started around 1890, and is almost complete. Nobody has a timeline. If people claim they know when these things will finalise they are lying and they are the Christian fanatics. I know of the general trend which must take place. Not once have I encouraged people to become Zionists. The future is cast in stone yes, but I do not have the answers.
" They are going to lose, and the Jews will reclaim all the land which they had before the Roman Empire took them down."
Let's assume you are right and that is destiny. Does the bible say when? How do you know that will not happen in 1000 years? And if it is destiny why are people going though a lot of effort to do what is supposed to be fate anyway? If it will happen ...[text shortened]... Zionism? It will not make any difference if the future is set in stone. It cannot be stopped. Right?
People will have to follow their own path. There are many righteous Arabs who will be and are, blessed by God. God does not respect peoples status, nationality, colour or religious persuasion. God looks at a mans heart and how he treat those around him. For sure many Jews who do the wrong thing are going to be in trouble.
If ever Im blessed enough to have all the answers I will post it here, although you will call me a fanatic.
14 Oct 23
@kevcvs57 saidI know how and why the Jews got back their land. And Im pretty sure you will live long enough to eat those words about God. God forgives ignorance but arrogance is another matter. I hope you have the former only.
The German Nazis Holocaust and US oil barons gave Palestine to the Jews the first unwittingly the second with a very direct geopolitical purpose in mind
Agnostic Libs like me just think after millennia of persecution by Christian’s and Muslims the Jews deserve a place that they can call home, somewhere that will take them in and protect them from the next bunch of Nazis.
...[text shortened]... it did exist would have a plan and set of instructions for a bunch of, albeit, very clever, primates
14 Oct 23
@rajk999 saidWhere are you getting this 1890 crap? Very little land was bought by Jews back then.
The process started around 1890, and is almost complete. Nobody has a timeline. If people claim they know when these things will finalise they are lying and they are the Christian fanatics. I know of the general trend which must take place. Not once have I encouraged people to become Zionists. The future is cast in stone yes, but I do not have the answers.
People will ...[text shortened]... Im blessed enough to have all the answers I will post it here, although you will call me a fanatic.
If you really believe in fate you will feel no need to push for stealing Palestinian land. If you do feel the need it will only prove you don't believe in fate. Nobody should feel the need to change the inevitable.
14 Oct 23
@rajk999 saidBy violating the 10th commandment.
I know how and why the Jews got back their land. And Im pretty sure you will live long enough to eat those words about God. God forgives ignorance but arrogance is another matter. I hope you have the former only.
Why do you think you have to rush Jewish control of land in Palestine? If it is meant to happen hundreds of years from now you are just fighting fate. That would explain why god created angry Palestinians to fight premature Zionism. It is not meant to happen this soon.
14 Oct 23
@metal-brain saidThe Zionist movement was started around 1880
Where are you getting this 1890 crap? Very little land was bought by Jews back then.
If you really believe in fate you will feel no need to push for stealing Palestinian land. If you do feel the need it will only prove you don't believe in fate. Nobody should feel the need to change the inevitable.
https://www.nli.org.il/en/discover/israel/zionism/zionism-history