Originally posted by shavixmirThen, roll on independence for Scotland. I am all in favour of it since we should get some tax alleviation in England as a result.
If Scotland should ever gain independance, I'll move back up there.
Or if global warming does the trick and the shores of Loch Lomond sprout palm trees.
Originally posted by NargagunaHow's that then? Scotland will no longer be subsidising you with our oil and our whisky revenues, you'll no longer be able to steal the income tax of Scots who work for English firms, you'll have to pay the full cost of Trident and its replacement (where will you put the nuclear missiles once you can't put them here?), and of whatever wars the labour party takes you into in future.
we should get some tax alleviation in England as a result.
And you'll still have to pay for the royal parasites.
Originally posted by RedmikeThe report in The Scotsman goes on to say that even if Scotland received every peny of the tax raised from oil there would still be a shortfall of some £3 billion which would have be charitably donated by England in order to meet your extravagant spending habits.
How's that then? Scotland will no longer be subsidising you with our oil and our whisky revenues, you'll no longer be able to steal the income tax of Scots who work for English firms, you'll have to pay the full cost of Trident and its replacement (where will you put the nuclear missiles once you can't put them here?), and of whatever wars the labour party takes you into in future.
And you'll still have to pay for the royal parasites.
As to helping to support the 'royal parasites', as you call them,I would much prefer to do so than keep you Glaswegian dropouts in idleness.
Most of them at least enhance British prestige abroad and boost morale in England.
Originally posted by NargagunaBut the report cited by the Scotsman has been discredited, as I've shown above.
The report in The Scotsman goes on to say that even if Scotland received every peny of its oil proceeds there would still be a shortfall of some £3 billion which would have be charitably donated by England in order to meet your extravagant spending habits.
As to helping to support the 'royal parasites', as you call them,I would much prefer to do so than k ...[text shortened]... idleness.
Most of them at least enhance British prestige abroad and boost morale in England.
But even if we accept it, the £3billion is easily made up by the whisky duty (currently about £2 billion a year to the UK) and the massive savings on the civil service bill, savings on defence costs (no nukes).
Re your second point - what makes you think I am an idle dropout?
I think the royals do a fine job for the English comedy industry - you're welcome to them.
As I said before, Scotland is subsidising England. It is the Scots who are paying for your Olympics, your medieval monarch and your imperialist wars.
Originally posted by RedmikeWe shall never know since the chances of the majority of the inhabitants of Scotland voting for complete indpendence is near zero. Don't forget that not all are of your sort of mentality, especially those living in the more civilised parts of the Country (i.e. most parts outside Glasgow).So there is unfortunately not much point in continuing to discuss your pipe-dream.
But the report cited by the Scotsman has been discredited, as I've shown above.
But even if we accept it, the £3billion is easily made up by the whisky duty (currently about £2 billion a year to the UK) and the massive savings on the civil service bill, savings on defence costs (no nukes).
Re your second point - what makes you think I am an idle dropo s the Scots who are paying for your Olympics, your medieval monarch and your imperialist wars.
Originally posted by NargagunaAll the opinion poll evidence suggests otherwise.
We shall never know since the chances of the majority of the inhabitants of Scotland voting for complete indpendence is near zero. Don't forget that not all are of your sort of mentality, especially those living in the more civilised parts of the Country (i.e. most parts outside Glasgow).So there is unfortunately not much point in continuing to discuss your pipe-dream.
I assume the other questions will, as usual, go unanswered.
Originally posted by NargagunaGlasgow is as much a civilised part of the UK as anyother place. I can't see what your problem is with Glasgow.
[b especially those living in the more civilised parts of the Country (i.e. most parts outside Glasgow).
You seem to be spouting of about how bad and uncivilised it is.
Well answer me this, have you ever stayed in Glasgow for any length of time.
Originally posted by AmauroteI know this is a belated rejoinder but I would have thought that as it is very hard to succesfuully take the piss out of any conservative(or blood or money or .....) that they need very little water as a result of their physiological non dependence on it, resulting from a firm hold on their internally bottled goodness.
I read today that there is less water in the south of England than Scotland, and yet there are more Conservative voters there. Does this support the conclusion that voting Conservative vapourizes tapwater?
Originally posted by kmax87Now here is a real gem of unintelligible illiteracy.
I know this is a belated rejoinder but I would have thought that as it is very hard to succesfuully take the piss out of any conservative(or blood or money or .....) that they need very little water as a result of their physiological non dependence on it, resulting from a firm hold on their internally bottled goodness.
Originally posted by AmauroteIf you didnt have a royal family almost none of the last 50 years of british comedy would make any sense.
They're good for a chuckle, if that's what you mean. But canned laughter tapes are a snip at the price.
All that obsesion with absurdity and bureaucratic stupidity and that delusional affectation of inate superiority juxtaposed against economic bumbling and technological incompetence(not the ability to invent or discover, but the inability to capitalise on an idea letting others profit by it), all constitute the charming elements of English humour. If they had not a royal family to continually uphold the virtue of eccentricity as a model, then England would just be another boring company town.
Rule Brittania.
Originally posted by NargagunaEven if it were so, why would England have to meet the shortfall.
there would still be a shortfall of some £3 billion which would have be charitably donated by England in order to meet your extravagant spending habits.
How about the EU.
Would Scotland automatically still be an EU member, or would it have to apply (if it wanted to be in)?