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shavixmir
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I can’t find an answer and it’s doing my head in.

If one is talking about the British Empire and solely about the British empire, you could talk about “the enpire”.

But more often than not “the” gets dropped and people talk about “empire”.

Now, I’ve stumbled upon it in a very different place. The whole subject is about empires. So, it’s not referring to an obvious, singular entity.

And even here, they often drop “the”.

So along the lines of: “When people talk about empire, they often think them unsuccesful.”

To the best of my knowledge, the empire in that sentence should have “the” in front of it, or it should be plural.

Yet... often... it’s just like that!

Can anyone explain this to me? I can’t find a bloody answer anywhere and it is doing my noggin’ in.

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@shavixmir said
I can’t find an answer and it’s doing my head in.

If one is talking about the British Empire and solely about the British empire, you could talk about “the enpire”.

But more often than not “the” gets dropped and people talk about “empire”.

Now, I’ve stumbled upon it in a very different place. The whole subject is about empires. So, it’s not referring to an obvious, ...[text shortened]... explain this to me? I can’t find a bloody answer anywhere and it is doing my noggin’ in.

Cheers!
I have no idea what you are on about but I looked up Dutch Empire and you guys had one believe it not. That must have been fun times in the flatlands I bet.

In fact it seems like almost everyone has had an Empire at some point, except maybe Hawaii and Antarctica. Even Romania had one for a while. The Italians have had a couple of big ones I’m talking BIG here! Those pesky French loved a bit of Empire and stomping around, oh and (coughs) the Germans of course.

(I mentioned it once but I think I got away with it.)

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@shavixmir said
I can’t find an answer and it’s doing my head in.

If one is talking about the British Empire and solely about the British empire, you could talk about “the enpire”.

But more often than not “the” gets dropped and people talk about “empire”.

Now, I’ve stumbled upon it in a very different place. The whole subject is about empires. So, it’s not referring to an obvious, ...[text shortened]... explain this to me? I can’t find a bloody answer anywhere and it is doing my noggin’ in.

Cheers!
drugs can cause strange thoughts 😳

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@shavixmir said
I can’t find an answer and it’s doing my head in.

Cheers!
If this is a serious question.

I'd consider "empire" without a definite article to be talking about the concept
of empire. "The Empire" would be talking about a specific empire.

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Impossible; it was a long time ago in a galaxy far away.

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@divegeester said
Impossible; it was a long time ago in a galaxy far away.
Made me smile you have.

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@indonesia-phil said
Made me smile you have.
Your mirth I sense, betrays your good nature it does.

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@divegeester said
I have no idea what you are on about but I looked up Dutch Empire and you guys had one believe it not. That must have been fun times in the flatlands I bet.

In fact it seems like almost everyone has had an Empire at some point, except maybe Hawaii and Antarctica. Even Romania had one for a while. The Italians have had a couple of big ones I’m talking BIG here! Those p ...[text shortened]... nd, oh and (coughs) the Germans of course.

(I mentioned it once but I think I got away with it.)
See. You write “an empire”.
But quite often that same sentence gets written without the “an”.

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@wolfgang59 said
If this is a serious question.

I'd consider "empire" without a definite article to be talking about the concept
of empire. "The Empire" would be talking about a specific empire.
It’s a very serious question.

So, you’re suggesting that empire (without a definate article) should be considered as an ism (like imperialism)?

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@shavixmir said
I can’t find an answer and it’s doing my head in.

If one is talking about the British Empire and solely about the British empire, you could talk about “the enpire”.

But more often than not “the” gets dropped and people talk about “empire”.

Now, I’ve stumbled upon it in a very different place. The whole subject is about empires. So, it’s not referring to an obvious, ...[text shortened]... explain this to me? I can’t find a bloody answer anywhere and it is doing my noggin’ in.

Cheers!
It’s like talking about “the Democracy” vs just “Democracy”.

“When people talk about Democracy...”

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@divegeester said
I have no idea what you are on about but I looked up Dutch Empire and you guys had one believe it not. That must have been fun times in the flatlands I bet.

In fact it seems like almost everyone has had an Empire at some point, except maybe Hawaii and Antarctica. Even Romania had one for a while. The Italians have had a couple of big ones I’m talking BIG here! Those p ...[text shortened]... nd, oh and (coughs) the Germans of course.

(I mentioned it once but I think I got away with it.)
Ireland didn’t.

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They were space Nazis.

https://www.starwars.com/news/from-world-war-to-star-wars-imperial-officers

I guess there were Roman characteristics as well.

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@athousandyoung said
Ireland didn’t.
Never been to Scotland then

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@kevcvs57 said
Never been to Scotland then
Ireland never controlled Scotland. In fact it was the Scots who helped imperialize their Irish ancestors.

Do you consider England to be part of a German Empire?

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