Originally posted by CrowleyYou know the difference between those of us that support Horn and
LOL, you hard-liners are pretty funny sometimes.
I wish that every person who touts Horn as a hero gets called by police, informing them that their son/daughter has just been killed by some trigger happy shop owner, because the guy suspected they were shoplifting.ou
people who think like you do? I'd never wish what you just did to my
kids on you.
Kelly
Originally posted by CrowleyWhat he did was defend himself and those that lived next to him,
No I didn't, I sketched pretty much the same scenario.
Did Horn have their rap-sheets in front him with a clear line of sight so that he could absolutely positively identify them?
Not? Aaah, I didn't think so.
I'm not disputing the fact that the 2 guys were unsavoury characters, but some half-blind, crazy elderly citizen with a shotgun should never b ...[text shortened]... e.
He's a trigger-happy vigilante who should get the death penalty for a double homicide.
that was what happened. You making claims about what should be
true does not come into play, it is only the facts of that case nothing
more.
Kelly
Originally posted by KellyJayWe had a similar case in the UK...Tony Martin.
What he did was defend himself and those that lived next to him,
that was what happened. You making claims about what should be
true does not come into play, it is only the facts of that case nothing
more.
Kelly
The FACTS were that he shot and killed someone, and served time accordingly, as your man Horn should do.
Having said that, I do beleive in the right to defend myself from intruders IN my home, using any level of measures that eject or neutralise such "unwelcome visitors" and their threat.
Originally posted by ZadadkaThe facts, are two people are dead and he shot them, I'll wait for
We had a similar case in the UK...Tony Martin.
The FACTS were that he shot and killed someone, and served time accordingly, as your man Horn should do.
Having said that, I do beleive in the right to defend myself from intruders IN my home, using any level of measures that eject or neutralise such "unwelcome visitors" and their threat.
the rest to come out. It sounded like they made moves towards him
too a mistake they will not ever make again. I do not agree with you
that he should be jailed, I'm not for anyone killing anyone for any
reason, but if you are committing a crime and during that crime you
make a threat towards anyone with anything, it is open season on
your butt for people to respond.
Kelly
Originally posted by KellyJayIt's not his job to defend anyone living close to him.
The facts, are two people are dead and he shot them, I'll wait for
the rest to come out. It sounded like they made moves towards him
too a mistake they will not ever make again. I do not agree with you
that he should be jailed, I'm not for anyone killing anyone for any
reason, but if you are committing a crime and during that crime you
make a threat towards anyone with anything, it is open season on
your butt for people to respond.
Kelly
I've seen nothing in the media about them having any weapons either - so how worried could Horn have been about them coming at him?
He probably made up the story about them 'making a move towards him' to try and escape a murder rap - we can only hope justice prevails in this case.
I especially like your 'open season' comment.
Again I will use your kids as an example - Would you have the same arrogant attitude if a shop owner killed your child and spun a stupid story afterwards about them 'making a move towards him'?
Originally posted by Sam The ShamAgain, I'm not disputing the fact that those two are better removed from the general public.
If you support criminals, then I have no sympathy for you. The world is a better, safer place with those two dead.
But getting the death penalty seems a bit harsh, don't you think?
Originally posted by CrowleyHalf blind? Two shots...Two kills. Sounds 20/20 to me. Poor, poor bad guys. They're just soooo misunderstood. And, by the way, your hypotheticals suck putty balls.
No I didn't, I sketched pretty much the same scenario.
Did Horn have their rap-sheets in front him with a clear line of sight so that he could absolutely positively identify them?
Not? Aaah, I didn't think so.
I'm not disputing the fact that the 2 guys were unsavoury characters, but some half-blind, crazy elderly citizen with a shotgun should never b ...[text shortened]... e.
He's a trigger-happy vigilante who should get the death penalty for a double homicide.
Sir Horn was an elderly man, scared to death of the robberies going on with no help from the police and dispatched the scum in such a way that they will have to attend their funerals in a closed casket, which,of course, Sir Horn will be paying for out of his taxes, no doubt.
Granny.
Originally posted by Crowley"I wish that every person who touts Horn as a hero gets called by police,.."
It's not his job to defend anyone living close to him.
I've seen nothing in the media about them having any weapons either - so how worried could Horn have been about them coming at him?
He probably made up the story about them 'making a move towards him' to try and escape a murder rap - we can only hope justice prevails in this case.
I especially l ...[text shortened]... ed your child and spun a stupid story afterwards about them 'making a move towards him'?
Personally, I do not care to carry on a conversation with you after you
said this! You want to see people's kids die just to prove a point you
think you have. There is nothing from you I'm interested in reading
from here on out.
Kelly
Originally posted by smw6869Any retard with a shotgun can get two kills with 2 shots - as was proven by Herr Horn.
Half blind? Two shots...Two kills. Sounds 20/20 to me. Poor, poor bad guys. They're just soooo misunderstood. And, by the way, your hypotheticals suck putty balls.
Sir Horn was an elderly man, scared to death of the robberies going on with no help from the police and dispatched the scum in such a way that they will have to attend their funerals in a closed casket, which,of course, Sir Horn will be paying for out of his taxes, no doubt.
Granny.
My hypothetical doesn't suck.
A citizen took the law into his own hands and killed 2 suspected burglars in cold blood and is now making up a weak story to try and cover up his double homicide.
Fits in perfectly with the scenario I sketched.
You would call for the head of my hypothetical shop owner if he shot one of your kids he suspected of shoplifting.
What would you say when our make believe shop owner started rambling on about 'the kids of today - always stealing sweets from my store! Mr. X from around the corner was shot by 2 shoplifters the other day.'?
Would you say: 'OK man, sorry. I didn't know people were stealing from and killing shop owners. Carry on!'?
Originally posted by CrowleyThey were using a crowbar to break into a home. Shoplifting is a crappy analogy. Your hypothetical does indeed suck. Why do you keep saying "suspected burglars" and "allegedly" breaking into a house? They were caught in the act, no guesswork needed.
Any retard with a shotgun can get two kills with 2 shots - as was proven by Herr Horn.
My hypothetical doesn't suck.
A citizen took the law into his own hands and killed 2 suspected burglars in cold blood and is now making up a weak story to try and cover up his double homicide.
Fits in perfectly with the scenario I sketched.
You would call for the he K man, sorry. I didn't know people were stealing from and killing shop owners. Carry on!'?
Originally posted by Sam The ShamI just love how you idiots are skirting the issue by saying my hypothetical scenario 'sucks' - when any person with an IQ higher than the amount of toes they have can see they follow parallel.
They were using a crowbar to break into a home. Shoplifting is a crappy analogy. Your hypothetical does indeed suck. Why do you keep saying "suspected burglars" and "allegedly" breaking into a house? They were caught in the act, no guesswork needed.
OK, the article I read said suspected - apparently they did break a window - it doesn't change the fact that Horn murdered them because of it.
Is the death penalty now accepted for breaking and entering in Texas?
I will leave you with a great quote from Joe 'I Kill For Fun' Horn...
"You wanna make a bet," Horn responded. "I'm gonna kill them. They're gonna get away."
Nice bit of pre-meditation recorded on tape. Say, does Texas still kill murderers?