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@divegeester said
Oh dear. The question is this..

How can the WHO be making proclamations about how dangerous this variant is, and at the same time be saying it’s only been reported a week and it will be a few more weeks until we know enough about it?

There have been scientists all over the media today saying we don’t know enough about it.
Because of the number of mutations, especially in regard to its spikes, you know, the things that allow it to gain entry into cells and reproduce. This isn’t conjecture this is known scientific fact. It is also thought to be highly transmissible. The UK government thinks it’s so dangerous that they’ve introduced travel bans and mask mandates.
Why are you obsessing about the WHO? Pretty much everyone thinks it’s dangerous and the fact that we don’t know exactly how dangerous makes it particularly dangerous if you can get your head around that one.
So my question to you is, ‘what’s your real issue with the WHO?’.

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@divegeester said
I watched the President of WHO on TV at a podium saying it.

It then cut to the studio where other scientists were saying it’s only a week we don’t know anything about it.

The President of WHO was lying. I saw it with my own eyes.
If we do not know anything about it why do people in that there England have to wear masks in shops and in public transport.
It’s main danger is exactly our lack of knowledge concerning it, other than it has about twice the number of mutations from the original virus that delta has and look how fast that spread. The fact that we don’t know how debilitating, deadly, or vaccine resistant it is is what makes it so dangerous. The guy from the WHO wasn’t lying you just don’t understand what the term ‘dangerous’ means in relation to the global health implications, which is how the WHO think about stuff. They aren’t Just interested in the fate of us first world snowflakes who have access to vaccines and relatively good healthcare facilities, they will also be concerned about the danger it poses to less fortunate population groups.
Perhaps Sky along with its contributors and viewers should look at the bigger picture.
Again: what is your real issue with the WHO?

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@divegeester said
Oh dear. The question is this..

How can the WHO be making proclamations about how dangerous this variant is, and at the same time be saying it’s only been reported a week and it will be a few more weeks until we know enough about it?
I don't know, how can divegeester be making proclamations about how anvils are going to fall from the sky even though he's never been in a smithy?

Answer: you didn't, and the WHO didn't. Sky News claimed, quite inaccurately, that they did. Your beef should be with your commercial "news" channels, not with the WHO.

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@jimmac said
No its not, our news in Aussie quoted a " professional " claiming that no-one has been seriously sick from it yet.
You do realise that just about all the news in your convict colonies is owned and controlled by Rupert Murdoch a.k.a. Fox Propaganda, don't you?

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@divegeester said
No I watched the head of the WHO say it at a podium. Last night with my own eyes.
Well, I linked to their site.
Perhaps the head was speculating a bit, I mean, there are an awful lot of mutations to this new tory.

Did I say tory? I obviously meant Corona variant.

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@shallow-blue said
I don't know, how can divegeester be making proclamations about how anvils are going to fall from the sky even though he's never been in a smithy?

Answer: you didn't, and the WHO didn't. Sky News claimed, quite inaccurately, that they did. Your beef should be with your commercial "news" channels, not with the WHO.
For the third time…

I watch the President of the WHO say it on TV, he was standing a a podium.

Can’t you read!

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@kevcvs57 said
One of the main takeaways from the op is probably don’t rely on Sky news for important info.
I would add, do not rely on "any" mainstream media, fox is far from the worst.

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@divegeester said
Oh dear. The question is this..

How can the WHO be making proclamations about how dangerous this variant is, and at the same time be saying it’s only been reported a week and it will be a few more weeks until we know enough about it?

There have been scientists all over the media today saying we don’t know enough about it.
You've simply restated your question without making any reference to my detailed response.

Your seeming incredulity I would argue, comes from your limited understanding, and not from any appreciation of the extensive knowledge held by experts with years of research and experience in the field who are able to make fairly rapid judgement calls on emerging trends.

Will their prognostications always be perfectly on point? Who can say, but for my money, its better to go hard early and be ahead of the curve. By preparing for the worst, there's always the possibility of a silver lining. Hoping nothing happens however is a perfect recipe for disaster.

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The US has its first omicron case—and the patient was fully vaccinated.

https://finance.yahoo.com/m/cb0ffa5d-aa0d-3f62-bed9-b5de503e4f1f/the-us-has-its-first-omicron.html

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@kmax87 said
You've simply restated your question without making any reference to my detailed response.
That’s because your response didn’t address my question.

A similar thing happened today with one “expert” telling the media “this new variant is a cause for real concern” and another “expert” saying “the symptoms are mild”

How can it be a cause of real concern when “they” haven’t assessed it yet and I don’t think anyone outside of Africa has died of it, and maybe no one Africa. The scientific community need to stop trying to grab headlines and focus on getting some facts.

As for Jon van Tamm, jeez what a pompous ass. Yesterday on live TV “I don’t want anyone to panic yet”. What the hell kind of thing is that to say!

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@metal-brain said
The US has its first omicron case—and the patient was fully vaccinated.

https://finance.yahoo.com/m/cb0ffa5d-aa0d-3f62-bed9-b5de503e4f1f/the-us-has-its-first-omicron.html
So what, I am fully vaccinated and still got infected and still had covid 19 symptoms.

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@divegeester
First American case of Omicron, California. Fully vaxxed dude, had mild symptoms.

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@divegeester said
That’s because your response didn’t address my question.

A similar thing happened today with one “expert” telling the media “this new variant is a cause for real concern” and another “expert” saying “the symptoms are mild”

How can it be a cause of real concern when “they” haven’t assessed it yet and I don’t think anyone outside of Africa has died of it, and maybe ...[text shortened]... Yesterday on live TV “I don’t want anyone to panic yet”. What the hell kind of thing is that to say!
It really just seems so snippy and old-biddyish when a man trots out his verbal plumage for forum combat instead of courting or other positive and life-enhancing activities.

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@divegeester said
So what, I am fully vaccinated and still got infected and still had covid 19 symptoms.
And your point is what?

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@kevin-eleven said
It really just seems so snippy and old-biddyish when a man trots out his verbal plumage for forum combat instead of courting or other positive and life-enhancing activities.
Thanks for kevsplaining and not falling into that trap yourself! I don't know how we managed without you...

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