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Wajoma
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Nice going scottish, you kicked ass on this thread, change the frickin avatar though.

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Originally posted by scottishinnz
In parts of Africa the problem is not necessarily the annual production of food most years, but the frequent drought years, and the inflow of cheap food produced overseas, especially in Europe.
You forgot to mention war, which is often aided and abetted by corporate interests.

As a matter of interest, are you in favour of GM food?

(Article on evil GM interests: http://www.globalpolicy.org/socecon/ffd/2003/0807gmwar.htm)

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Originally posted by Bosse de Nage
You forgot to mention war, which is often aided and abetted by corporate interests.

As a matter of interest, are you in favour of GM food?

(Article on evil GM interests: http://www.globalpolicy.org/socecon/ffd/2003/0807gmwar.htm)
I think GM will increasingly have its place within the world, yes. I don't think it's a unilateral solution, but I don't think it's a great evil either. People have to get real and stop all the scaremongering.

Something we have to remember is that if GM foods are not competitive in terms of returns etc then they won't be used. Science isn't at a point where we can do huge big changes to plants, normally only minor ones anyway. Also, of course, the genes that are used are normally found in plants anyway. The soil bacterium Agrobacterium routinely swaps DNA between organisms, so even lateral gene transfer is hardly novel. Indeed, analyse any conventional crop species DNA and you get genes from heaps of different species.

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Originally posted by scottishinnz
I think GM will increasingly have its place within the world, yes. I don't think it's a unilateral solution, but I don't think it's a great evil either. People have to get real and stop all the scaremongering.
Yep, like those "mans effect on global warming" scaremongers.

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Originally posted by Wajoma
Yep, like those "mans effect on global warming" scaremongers.
Well, no. The evidence for global warming is clear. The evidence of any effects of the environment of either GM or non-GM is unequivocal.

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Well yes, I said "mans effect" scaremongers.

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Originally posted by scottishinnz
Well, no. The evidence for global warming is clear. The evidence of any effects of the environment of either GM or non-GM is unequivocal.
In other words, it's not certain whether it's safe or not, but it's certainly profitable, so let's go ahead with it anyway. No?

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Originally posted by Bosse de Nage
In other words, it's not certain whether it's safe or not, but it's certainly profitable, so let's go ahead with it anyway. No?
I say there should be more tests. But no tests so far have unequivocally shown it to be bad for the environment.

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Originally posted by scottishinnz
I say there should be more tests. But no tests so far have unequivocally shown it to be bad for the environment.
It all depends on the result the boss wants the researcher to achieve doesn't it. At the end of the day. Know what I mean.

Can't be easy being an objective scientist in today's bottom-line reality. Especially when the real policy makers know and care jack about science.

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Originally posted by Bosse de Nage
It all depends on the result the boss wants the researcher to achieve doesn't it. At the end of the day. Know what I mean.

Can't be easy being an objective scientist in today's bottom-line reality. Especially when the real policy makers know and care jack about science.
That's why I choose to work in Universities rather than doing commercial research. i don't want someone else telling me what to research. End of the day, the politics is more often more important than the science.

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Originally posted by scottishinnz
That's why I choose to work in Universities rather than doing commercial research. i don't want someone else telling me what to research. End of the day, the politics is more often more important than the science.
Good for you! And now I am taking a smoke break. Recently I read a scientific article stating that smoking is good for your health...

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Originally posted by Bosse de Nage
Good for you! And now I am taking a smoke break. Recently I read a scientific article stating that smoking is good for your health...
Then I believe you may be stuck in a time vortex...

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Originally posted by scottishinnz
Then I believe you may be stuck in a time vortex...
Shh, it's top secret...😉

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