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Originally posted by no1marauderOnly a lawyer would give such an answer.
Does the fact that Schindler's List had dramatized events in it mean the Holocaust really didn't happen?
You can think whatever you want, but there is a big difference between making a movie documenting the Holocaust and between faking news. The difference can be seen in the agenda in each one.
Schindler's list. despite your belief' was not made as an attempt to harm or underhandely hurt Germany.
"Pallywood" is directly meant to gain word wide support and symapthy for Palestinians which, in these particular cases, they should not get.
You think that the Palestinians are being opressed for no reason?
That's fine.
But justifying their lies is not.
You can support the Palestinians and still be man enough to admit it when they slip up.
Taking it completely out of context by comparing it to Schindler's list just makes you look foolish.
FNM
Originally posted by Faith No MoreThat is a bit over the top, comparing Schindler to the Iraeli/Palestinian struggle. When you want to get into a pishing contest, what do you think Israel would be like today if Jordan had not attacked the incipient country 24 hours after it was formed? Don't you kind of think that may have been the first blow? Perhaps there could have been dialog to settle the issues peacefully if the Jordanians hadn't just jumped in guns blazing in an unprovoked attack in 1948.
Only a lawyer would give such an answer.
You can think whatever you want, but there is a big difference between making a movie documenting the Holocaust and between faking news. The difference can be seen in the agenda in each one.
Schindler's list. despite your belief' was not made as an attempt to harm or underhandely hurt Germany.
"Pallyw ...[text shortened]... ely out of context by comparing it to Schindler's list just makes you look foolish.
FNM
Originally posted by sonhousePlease actually read a history book; the idea that the Arabs attacked the peaceful state of Israel in 1948 is laughable.
That is a bit over the top, comparing Schindler to the Iraeli/Palestinian struggle. When you want to get into a pishing contest, what do you think Israel would be like today if Jordan had not attacked the incipient country 24 hours after it was formed? Don't you kind of think that may have been the first blow? Perhaps there could have been dialog to settle ...[text shortened]... acefully if the Jordanians hadn't just jumped in guns blazing in an unprovoked attack in 1948.
Originally posted by PalynkaPlease learn how to read. I accepted none of your claims just determined that whatever "differences" existed were irrelevant. Your "claims" are similiarly irrelevant.
Interesting that you chose to accept the differences I wrote.
Those differences are, however, enormous. In both content, intent and message. That renders your analogy pathetic.
Care to actually tackle my claims rather than a strawman of them?
Originally posted by NargagunaThe UN General assembly plan would have created a Jewish state comprising 58% of the land area of Palestine and approximately the same percentage of the population. Jews represented less than 30% of the population of Palestine in 1948. Even assuming that the Palestinians were under ANY moral or other obligation to accept a division of Palestine into 2 states, surely they could not be reasonably expected to agree to one that was so manifestly unfair.
They could have had their own state years ago had they agreed to share Palestine with the Israelis, who have just as good a claim to a share of its territory.
Originally posted by no1marauderTwo can play that game. No YOU learn how to read.
Please learn how to read. I accepted none of your claims just determined that whatever "differences" existed were irrelevant. Your "claims" are similiarly irrelevant.
Anything else you'd like to say? Something with substance, perhaps? Oh, I forgot. You rarely do.
Originally posted by no1marauderQuite a display of intelligence and argumentative power.
Go screw yourself. YOU were the one who attempted to criticize the analogy, but you apparently are toooooooooooo stupid to understand what an analogy is. How does it feel to be such a sorry moron?
PS: Regarding Schindler's nationality, I'm not surprised you have no idea about the Sudeten Germans. You shouldn't stick to Wikipedia as a complete source.
http://www.greenleft.org.au/back/2002/495/495p19c.htm
http://www.arabicnews.com/ansub/Daily/Day/010730/2001073014.html
http://www.socialistworker.org/Featured/Israel.shtml#Exposing
As we can clearly see, lies are abound when it comes to the Israeli-Palestinian conflict.
The truth of the matter, as I have expressed myself (and having lived there), is that the displacement of Palestinians, the division of their land and the unacceptable terms upon which they must agree (refugees not being allowed back into their own country) are not lies, but bare faced facts.
The slaughters in 1982 are bare faced facts.
The death tolls 1 Israeli for every 4 Palestinians is a fact.
Every war has perpetrators trying to change history to their advantage. Just look at that rescue of that female American soldier in Iraq. Completely staged.
Please people, don't just a whole conflict on one or two rapports. Look deeper and see the truth you will.
Originally posted by no1marauderYou are one of the most abusive and least able subcribers to this forum generally, regardless of topic, and I am seriously beginning to doubt your sanity.
Go screw yourself. YOU were the one who attempted to criticize the analogy, but you apparently are toooooooooooo stupid to understand what an analogy is. How does it feel to be such a sorry moron?
EDIT: Shoot, I should have looked up Schindler's nationality; I have to stop assuming cretins in this forum are EVER correct in their factual assertions.
