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@AverageJoe1 saidThe folly is thinking that government is the right tool to solve your problem.
I have said here for 10 years that all of our problems can simply be traced back to culture. Some people are just not like other people. Out of which also came my mantra that some people work harder than others. I should teach a class.
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@thedogandthecello saidAs an example, weird behavior is to change your sex. The other side of that coin is the weird behavior of requiring Other people to pay for that medical procedure. That is weird you’ve got to admit. What is to keep the people who make you do that sort of thing from making you pay for someone’s groceries.?I’m just asking here.
@wildgrass
Back then people weren't trying to normalize weird behavior like the Democrats are.
Funny… Which is more important, to feed someone or to change their sex. Maybe we should direct the money to feeding people.
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@thedogandthecello saidLOL how old are you?
@wildgrass
Back then people weren't trying to normalize weird behavior like the Democrats are.
I can point to weird Democrat behavior going back many generations. Conservatives should just ignore.
We veer off track thinking that government can fix problems that stem from cultural change.
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@wildgrass
If taxpayers are paying for something then the government allowed it. So, the government is the one to stop it.
Just ignore it? Why? So the weirder gets weirder?
Give me some examples of weird Democrats back in the day that compares to Democrats today saying gender isn't real and taxpayers should pay for sex changes of convicted killers.
I'll wait.
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@thedogandthecello said
@wildgrass
If taxpayers are paying for something then the government allowed it. So, the government is the one to stop it.
Just ignore it? Why? So the weirder gets weirder?
Give me some examples of weird Democrats back in the day that compares to Democrats today saying gender isn't real and taxpayers should pay for sex changes of convicted killers.
I'll wait.
today saying gender isn't real and...
Dude, this is just simple counter culture, alternative lifestyles kind of thing. The flappers in the 1920s, hippies, threats to the social order.
Of course the weird gets weirder. You describe humanity.
Some of the old,.seemingly egregious liberal transgressive movements may seem timid by today's standards, but it was pretty darn drastic when women started shaving their heads and cursing in the 1920s.
You must be new to this, or extremely naive.
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@wildgrass
You think a woman shaving her head is comparable to a convicted killer getting a sex change in prison at the expense of the taxpayers?
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@Suzianne saidYou silly girl. You should teach a class, not unlike Alcoholics Anonymous. I’m told those attendees leave their meetings, a little bit dizzy. I have never seen a more unclosed statement. Seems to be hanging, maybe a section left out.? The govt has no money, little feller. The people have it, locked up somewhere to be dipped into as congress(the people) decide. You seem To be under an illusion that the money of the people, because it is called Tax, is no longer the people’s. Is that right?
Taxpayers don't pay for anything.
The government pays for it, using the money you gave to them under your obligation to pay taxes. That money is NOT yours, as I've told you many times. You're paying that money for the opportunity to be a citizen. That money is not yours once you spend it, just like any other monetary transaction. You don't get a say in what is budgete ...[text shortened]... for, then don't bitch, vote. But do not continue with the bankrupt idea that you paid for anything.
But here is the kicker. “”You don’t get a say in what is budgeted””. But the people elect Congress to budget at their behest. At their wishes. The people indeed decide how money is spent. Oh, except Dictator Biden who does it on his own.
So, could you please clear up that first paragraph, and then comment on how the people have no say in how the budget is spent . Hell, I’m getting dizzy myself
@thedogandthecello saidYou moved the goal post and now take my comment out of context. I replied to your post where you were saying that some folks in our modern society no longer believe in gender norms. Of course there's plenty of other comparisons.
@wildgrass
You think a woman shaving her head is comparable to a convicted killer getting a sex change in prison at the expense of the taxpayers?
Sex changes specifically the hormone and surgery kind are very new technology. But body dysmorphia is very common in human history.
And then if you want to talk about specific individual examples, history is your friend there too. A whole lotta weirdos out there.
Stay safe.
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@AverageJoe1 saidI also said you are a fool. Not repeating that one, I notice.
Note that Suzanne has inadvertently pointed out that Biden is indeed a dictator. You can see the distinction quite clearly from her point of view.
By the way, I did not call Biden a dictator, liar.
I save that one for Trump, but even then, our society is still holding up, so the best I can do is call him a "wanna-be" dictator.
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@wildgrass saidBut sometimes it is Unca Ronnie.
The folly is thinking that government is the right tool to solve your problem.
@wildgrass saidAnd what was Americas report card for that period of relative peace? Remember the Dulles brothers and any regime if their leaders were not willing to do things the American way, what happened to them?
In my day we conservatives used to think about big picture problems. Limited government. Free trade. The role of US military in global affairs that don't directly harm Americans.
From the Middle East to South America to South East Asia. What was Americas favorite past time? Regime change! Only US citizens had democratic rights. Bugger that for the rest of the world. And then Vietnam and Agent Orange and mega tonnes of the stuff. And the war next door that gave rise to Pol Pot. Don't forget what American bombers were doing over Cambodia. But there was no social media and people were generally asleep about what America was actually doing to the rest of humanity. And it really didn't have to happen, the our way or the highway attitude that enveloped American foreign policy.
Or how the World Bank was used to loan countries vast sums more than they actually needed to then stipulate that these nations turn their agricultural focus on to one cash crop to pay back the loans causing a vast disruption into their traditional life and capacity to be self sufficient. But because all of this happened while America experienced relative peace and harmony itself, people look back at a simpler golden age. But at whose expense? It seems at the expense of the rest of the world.
But if you don't acknowledge the irresistible force of karma you're going to run around dreaming of greatness past and chant woe is me and not recognize the seeds of your current malaise were sown when you saw fit to ride the rest of the world with impunity.
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@kmax87 saidI agree, but will posit that your examples are not consistent with conservative principles of limited government.
And what was Americas report card for that period of relative peace? Remember the Dulles brothers and any regime if their leaders were not willing to do things the American way, what happened to them?
From the Middle East to South America to South East Asia. What was Americas favorite past time? Regime change! Only US citizens had democratic rights. Bugger that for the res ...[text shortened]... eeds of your current malaise were sown when you saw fit to ride the rest of the world with impunity.
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@AverageJoe1 saidWell, if you have a national healthcare programme, everybody pays and everybody benefits.
As an example, weird behavior is to change your sex. The other side of that coin is the weird behavior of requiring Other people to pay for that medical procedure. That is weird you’ve got to admit. What is to keep the people who make you do that sort of thing from making you pay for someone’s groceries.?I’m just asking here.
Funny… Which is more important, to feed someone or to change their sex. Maybe we should direct the money to feeding people.
You may disagree with the principle, but comprehending that a great many countries have some sort of national healthcare up and running, it’s a bit of a stretch to call it weird.
Indeed, in Europe it would be considered that weird not to have such a programme anno 2024.
Unemployment benefit: everybody pays in and people without a job get money so they can live. Most countries have such a programme, and what is that if it isn’t everyone paying for someone else’s groceries?
Nothing weird about that.
It would be stranger if a country just let people starve, wouldn’t it?
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@Suzianne saidYou did not call him a dictator, you implied that he is a dictator by saying that the people have no right or power to have anything to do with the expenditure of our national budget. So you are saying that the government, which is Biden, dictates what happens to the national budget. If people have no input, whoever is running the show is a dictator.
I also said you are a fool. Not repeating that one, I notice.
By the way, I did not call Biden a dictator, liar.
I save that one for Trump, but even then, our society is still holding up, so the best I can do is call him a "wanna-be" dictator.
Now you get it, I hope.