@mghrn55 said"The premise that Biden created hell for the Americans is your premise:".
No, no, no ....... you can't set the boundaries if it limits realistic discussion.
The premise that Biden created hell for Americans is your premise.
A counterpoint to that premise is clearly allowed.
And to say Afghanistan only happened in the last 7 months is a ridiculous statement.
So we can bring in past administrations, from GW Bush onwards. No pont discussing Bush. ...[text shortened]... who didn't get a second bowl of ice cream.
I am inbounds bringing up Trump's failures on this one.
OK. I assume that they are in hellish conditions, a hellish atmosphere, and I am curious why the Taliban doesnt give them a ride to the airport to leave? Do you wonder that too? Sure you do. But you just gloss on over that. Curious indeed.
Next, you call that AvJoe's premise. So, you imply that they are happy there. OK, if we find that that they are happy there, I will buy you a nice steak dinner if we can find out a subterfuge way to do it, I'll just sell one share of Apple. I'll have my banker wire to your banker. Uh, will you do likewise and take the other side of that bet? No? That's OK. For the record, if I lose, you will get the money.
Biden made a decision that the world is astounded over. His polls have dropped, but lets leave that alone since polls are useless, they mean nothing.
The world saw Biden leave Americans stranded. You seem to not care, and , like Sonhouse, are a babbling idiot. You lose this one, MGHM, I am off to another thread. If we keep it up, you will defend the Taliban, and I have already thrown up today on a post by one of your comrades.
@AverageJoe1
OF COURSE you don't want to talk about those 5000 prisoners whom a lot of joined up ISIS K.
OF COURSE you don't want to hear ANY of that since your Trump cult programming stops your ability to think for yourself.
A shame really.
Trump has so many people under his hypnosis it may end up destroying democracy here in the US.
I hope you think about the end of democracy in the US.
Probably not since you probably think that could NEVER happen here.
Hey, it almost DID happen on Jan 6.
And you don't care.
@averagejoe1 saidRead the very first sentence in you very first post in the thread that you created.
"The premise that Biden created hell for the Americans is your premise:".
OK. I assume that they are in hellish conditions, a hellish atmosphere, and I am curious why the Taliban doesnt give them a ride to the airport to leave? Do you wonder that too? Sure you do. But you just gloss on over that. Curious indeed.
Next, you call that AvJoe's premise. So, yo ...[text shortened]... , you will defend the Taliban, and I have already thrown up today on a post by one of your comrades.
That is your opening statement.
After that, your recent post shown below makes absolutely no sense whatsoever.
You "assume" they are in hellish conditions ?? (see your opening statement again)
From there you babble about the Taliban offering rides to the airport ???
Then you say I called your opening statement your premise ?? (see your opening statement again)
Then I'm implying they are happy there ???
And then you offer me a steak dinner !!!
A complete display of incoherence !!!
And then you call me a babbling idiot ??? Uh, ok. π
I'll pass on the steak dinner. Get yourself a Big Mac. I'm sure you get an employee discount. π
@averagejoe1 saidOn your knees and pray boy.
Biden created Hell at the border, and now has created hell for several hundred Americans. Biden, Sonhouse. Don't once again waste our time about Trump.
It is Sunday, and they are all I will think about on the front row at church. I hope all of us do the same.
@sonhouse saidYou see,, Sonhouse,, you are the same. You are writing about another thread. This thread has nothing to do with anything that happened before about 10 days ago. You are all exactly the same. Unbelievable. Lock step.
@AverageJoe1
OF COURSE you don't want to talk about those 5000 prisoners whom a lot of joined up ISIS K.
OF COURSE you don't want to hear ANY of that since your Trump cult programming stops your ability to think for yourself.
A shame really.
Trump has so many people under his hypnosis it may end up destroying democracy here in the US.
I hope you think about the end ...[text shortened]... ly think that could NEVER happen here.
Hey, it almost DID happen on Jan 6.
And you don't care.
@averagejoe1 saidI understand -
Biden created Hell at the border, and now has created hell for several hundred Americans. Biden, Sonhouse. Don't once again waste our time about Trump.
It is Sunday, and they are all I will think about on the front row at church. I hope all of us do the same.
Donald Trump had plans to pull American troops out of Afghanistan during his term and Democrats complained. Joe Biden follows through on those plans and Republicans complain. Such is the state of our divided nation.
A few years ago I left Facebook. It was depressing to see so many of my former classmates, who were once such good friends, become bitter enemies, all over something as stupid as politics.
I've rediscovered the joy of sitting alone with a cup of tea, an interesting tactics problem on my board, and some soft jazz playing in the background. I think a bit more of this, and less politics will be in my future. π
@averagejoe1 saidHahaha what’s up Joe, ADS perhaps. If you want a grown up debate you will have to find some way of expanding your attention span past the 10 day mark π
You see,, Sonhouse,, you are the same. You are writing about another thread. This thread has nothing to do with anything that happened before about 10 days ago. You are all exactly the same. Unbelievable. Lock step.
Classic AJ
@mghrn55 saidbiden was in no way forced to do anything. He undid all of Trumps policies EXCEPT for this one and he sabotaged it.
Trump's plan was working.
On that we agree.
Where we differ is on the objective.
Trump's objective was to sabotage the oncoming administration.
He set the table for the catastrophe that ensued.
Are you thinking for some reason biden wad obliged to carry through with this?
@mott-the-hoople saidπ§π¨Moronity of Gop alert!!!π¨π§
biden was in no way forced to do anything. He undid all of Trumps policies EXCEPT for this one and he sabotaged it.
Are you thinking for some reason biden wad obliged to carry through with this?
@mchill saidI only read your first para. You omit the order of pulling out. Americans first, then troops, after dismantling the machinery and ordnance. Biden did his own thing and made a big mistake. Shouda followed the Trump doctrine.
I understand -
Donald Trump had plans to pull American troops out of Afghanistan during his term and Democrats complained. Joe Biden follows through on those plans and Republicans complain. Such is the state of our divided nation.
A few years ago I left Facebook. It was depressing to see so many of my former classmates, who were once such good friends, become bitter ene ...[text shortened]... zz playing in the background. I think a bit more of this, and less politics will be in my future. π
But, y'all write about it.
@AverageJoe1
Wow, Biden turns out to be human, makes mistakes.
You figure one mistake of Biden covers the THOUSANDS of mistakes and corruption of your god king tRUMP.
@sonhouse saidHey everyone, Sonhouse is the first to go ahead and admit that Biden made a mistake. Anyone else? And what about the Americans who are surrounded by different tribes of feuding savages, people that we are told don't want to leave!!???!??!?!?!?!?!??! Yeah, right.
@AverageJoe1
Wow, Biden turns out to be human, makes mistakes.
You figure one mistake of Biden covers the THOUSANDS of mistakes and corruption of your god king tRUMP.
@AverageJoe1
NO NO we WON'T talk about those 5000 Taliban/ISIS K prisoners since we would have to admit Trump was being PLAYED and THAT we can NEVER admit.
@kevcvs57 saidEasy, Kev. I keep one-upping you.
Hahaha what’s up Joe, ADS perhaps. If you want a grown up debate you will have to find some way of expanding your attention span past the 10 day mark π
Classic AJ
Note the many threads that are timely, usually to the day. Duchess gets kicked out, mail was flying within 9 hours. Or Biden lying (an MB thread)about the Delta Variant.
But here is old grandfatherly AvJoe, who introduces a thread that asks posters to comment on something that had just happened (my Pray for Americans thread) and you give me hell.
Kev, could you give me an honest response to that?
@AverageJoe1
As I wrote this, WH calls the Taliban "Professional'.
He didnt say professional with torture, stoning and beheading, but could that be what he meant? Let's discuss!!
But Kevin, is it OK that I put out a new thread on it, since it is a subject that is less than 10 days old. Why, it is only a few hours old. You said I was a fool and an idiot for doing something like that as I mention above. You liberal fellers are all over the place.
I wonder who is winning the most debates on the Forum?
Uhhhh, classic Kev.