Proof of the existence of God (by an atheist)

Originally posted by Palynka
Define existence.

Existence n 1a obs: reality as opposed to appearance 1b: reality as presented in experience 1c (1): the totality of existent things 1c (2): a particular being 1d: sentient or living being: life 2a: the state or fact of having being esp. independently of human conciousness and as contrasted with nonexistence 2b: the manner of being that is common to every mode of being 2c: being with respect to a limiting condition or under a particular aspect 3: continued or repeated manifestation 4: in existentialism: the condition of a person aware of his radically contingent yet free and responsible nature.

Definition 2b clearly states that god does not exist just because mankind is able to conceptualize him. In order for a god to exist he must do so independently of human conciousness. A god must be non-contingent.

Originally posted by rwingett
[b]Existence n 1a obs: reality as opposed to appearance 1b: reality as presented in experience 1c (1): the totality of existent things 1c (2): a particular being 1d: sentient or living being: life 2a: the state or fact of having being esp. independently of human conciousness and as contrasted with nonexistence 2b: the manner of bein ...[text shortened]... a god to exist he must do so independently of human conciousness. A god must be non-contingent. [/b]

By this dictionary definition, not even concepts exist. 🙂

Originally posted by Starrman
Nonsense.

Your rational would also suggest that fairies exist, dragons exist, superman exists and any other subject you care to pick out of a hat.

What you are talking about is that a discussion on the existence of god exists, this does not prove the existence of god as an entity.

Nonsense? what are you talking about? that is fact