Quote War

@wajoma said
kev said: Beware the free man seeking freedom for it is your freedom he seeks

suzianne said:Exactly! Witness the Texas legislators.

kev said: Exactly right wingers are always looking for the freedom to oppress the ‘other’.

kev is clocking up the "exactly"s, for his nonsense. Why do I get the feeling that kev is not quoting anyone but making stuff ...[text shortened]... and power to government is like giving whiskey and car keys to teenage boys"[/i] P J O'Rourke (RIP)

“ Looking for freedom to oppress others is an oxymoron, a contradiction”
No, no it isn’t just because a thing is done by a moron that does not make it an oxymoron.
Take the freedom to own slaves some people fought to the death for that right, or the freedom to treat lgbtq+ people or women in a discriminatory manner. These are actual freedoms that some people try to enshrine into legislation.

@shallow-blue said
Don't use words you do not understand.

Completely fine with the word ugggh, it's use and it's application to you and your buddies.

@kevcvs57 said
“ Looking for freedom to oppress others is an oxymoron, a contradiction”
No, no it isn’t just because a thing is done by a moron that does not make it an oxymoron.
Take the freedom to own slaves some people fought to the death for that right, or the freedom to treat lgbtq+ people or women in a discriminatory manner. These are actual freedoms that some people try to enshrine into legislation.

kev, whenever the word 'oxymoron' is used in a thread it's a race to the bottom for who can be the most predictable, most hackneyed cliche' bore to make some kind of moronic moron crack.

kev said: "Take the freedom to own slaves..."

Rights are an absolute kev, everyone has the same rights, you have a right to live your life free from force, threats of force and fraud. No one has a right to keep slaves, there is no freedom to keep slaves, all humans have the same rights.

“People do not expect to find chastity in a whorehouse. Why, then, do they expect to find honesty and humanity in government, a congeries of institutions whose modus operandi consists of lying, cheating, stealing, and if need be, murdering those who resist?”
H. L. Mencken

Edit: Link reposted a quick intro to self ownership and rights YouTube

@wajoma said
kev, whenever the word 'oxymoron' is used in a thread it's a race to the bottom for who can be the most predictable, most hackneyed cliche' bore to make some kind of moronic moron crack.

kev said: "Take the freedom to own slaves..."

Rights are an absolute kev, everyone has the same rights, you have a right to live your life free from force, threats of force and ...[text shortened]... ink reposted a quick intro to self ownership and rights https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V1sX1qkngSg

Wajoma you could just have laughed to yourself or ignored the quip don’t be a miserable sanctimonious expletive.
There is no such thing as objective freedom it’s all so constrained or expanded by the socialisation process that the term, out-with the glaringly obvious impositions, is essentially meaningless.
You for instance are obsessed with freedom from sociopolitical impositions on your illusionary vision of freedom.
Freedom from crushing poverty
Freedom from ignorance
Freedom from the bigotry
Are some examples of very important freedoms for me that require government involvement, but you would see that involvement as some degree of goobermint tyranny.
It’s all subjective so we'll just have to let democracy decide.

@wajoma said
Tried this a few times before, and every time the control freaks, busybodies, hyper sensitive cry babies, suzi's and zahloonies failed miserably.

So have at it, control freaks versus freedom lovers. I suggest that the ensuing quote in some way replies to the previous, but hey, free world right. To kick off, not so much a freedom quote but an excellent tenet to live by, ...[text shortened]... elf be true
And it must follow, as the night the day
Thou canst not then be false to any man."[/i]

''Never eat at a place called 'Mom's.'
Never shoot pool with a man named 'Fats.'
Never sit at a card game with someone called 'Doc.'
And never ever, no matter the circumstance,,
lay down with a woman who has more troubles than you,''