@no1marauder saidBut Africans and African Americans are of the same race with the exception of some mulatto mixing.
Yes.
If I were to assert that would it imply African Americans are inferior to Africans?
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@wajoma saidIn practice, that means that individuals from minorities will have less economic opportunities and that injustice will be worse the higher the level of irrational bigotry, prejudice and racism that exists in society.
The employee/employer relationship is a reciprocal voluntary exchange of value for value, so just as any employee can decide who they work for/not work for, any employer has the same right. This means employees and employers are free to discriminate in any way, no matter how irrational, they choose: shoes too big, ginger hair, buck teeth, sex, retard gimp/non-retard gimp, any ...[text shortened]... ws on prostitution, should clients and indeed prostitutes be allowed to discriminate as they choose.
And, of course, according to you any measures to eliminate or even reduce that unfairness is "racism".
Needless to say, I find such a result an unacceptable violation of Natural Rights which society is obligated to redress.
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@metal-brain saidPlease, do you want to see No1's head explode, he is a racist that promotes a racist system i.e. affirmative action, but to try to get him to define his race classification system is futile. Who is owed special treatment, on what basis and by whom?
But Africans and African Americans are of the same race with the exception of some mulatto mixing.
If I were to assert that would it imply African Americans are inferior to Africans?
I gave up because it was too easy to tie him in knots, and after years (the same thing comes up) there is still no satisfactory answer because there can never be a satisfactory answer, No'1 will revert to 'will of the people' or some such nonsense.
@no1marauder saidNo.1 said:
In practice, that means that individuals from minorities will have less economic opportunities and that injustice will be worse the higher the level of irrational bigotry, prejudice and racism that exists in society.
And, of course, according to you any measures to eliminate or even reduce that unfairness is "racism".
Needless to say, I find such a result an unacceptable violation of Natural Rights which society is obligated to redress.
"...that means that individuals from minorities will have less economic opportunities and" blah fuggin blah.
Which individuals?
...what opportunities?
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@wajoma saidThus my occasional reference to Marauder the Bot.
Uh oh, and so the cracks appear. A slip no doubt, like your use of the word 'individuals' but a telling one.
"...of real racism"
I'll say no more because you're in face saving mode at any cost even at the expense of being honest. All you have now is your rote robot replies.
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@no1marauder saidWhat would be the ideal society that would result from said redress? You cannot answer this fully without taking into consideration the bloody fact that some people work harder than others......that pesky tenet which underlies all of the arguments which you present.
In practice, that means that individuals from minorities will have less economic opportunities and that injustice will be worse the higher the level of irrational bigotry, prejudice and racism that exists in society.
And, of course, according to you any measures to eliminate or even reduce that unfairness is "racism".
Needless to say, I find such a result an unacceptable violation of Natural Rights which society is obligated to redress.
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@suzianne saidIt’s his daddy we are after, little feller. He is hard to find though, you know? He took his name off in NH, he is struggling thru black churches at the moment.
You are an idiot. You and I have been over this multiple times and the truth is he didn't say what you think he said.
Now to the point of my 'who cares?' comment. I'm talking about Hunter Biden. And your great big reveal about coke in his golf bag. Who freaking cares? I don't care, he's not the president and what he does in his free time is his own damned business. I say again, who cares?
Showing huge signs of weakness. I wonder what he will campaign on? Inflation? The Border? People getting your stuff? Punishing criminals? Kicking foreign ass?
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@wajoma saidTo be clear, before we get to your assertions that it is impossible to precisely identify those individuals who are victims of discrimination, you deny the legitimate power of society to step in if and when:
The employee/employer relationship is a reciprocal voluntary exchange of value for value, so just as any employee can decide who they work for/not work for, any employer has the same right. This means employees and employers are free to discriminate in any way, no matter how irrational, they choose: shoes too big, ginger hair, buck teeth, sex, retard gimp/non-retard gimp, any ...[text shortened]... ws on prostitution, should clients and indeed prostitutes be allowed to discriminate as they choose.
An employer posts a sign saying "No Blacks Need Apply"
A business posts a sign saying "No Blacks allowed"
A hotel posts a sign saying "Blacks cannot stay here".
Correct?
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@no1marauder saidIf blacks knew about his racial jungle quote they would not vote for him.
You're just making s88t up now. You have no idea how many Blacks are perfectly aware of this well covered brouhaha from almost 50 years ago. It did not effect the 2020 election despite your bleating about it and the chances it will effect this election is near zero.
It's hardly surprising that comments relating to the controversy regarding mandatory busing for the purp ...[text shortened]... f our present political discourse; the programs simply don't exist any more and haven't for decades.
Racial jungle Joe is just a racist that learned to be tolerant of blacks because it was good for his political career.
https://www.economist.com/democracy-in-america/2007/01/31/joe-biden-moron-racist-or-poorly-transcribed
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@no1marauder saidAre you claiming that most black Americans know about Biden's racial jungle quote?
You're just making s88t up now. You have no idea how many Blacks are perfectly aware of this well covered brouhaha from almost 50 years ago. It did not effect the 2020 election despite your bleating about it and the chances it will effect this election is near zero.
It's hardly surprising that comments relating to the controversy regarding mandatory busing for the purp ...[text shortened]... f our present political discourse; the programs simply don't exist any more and haven't for decades.
They know about it and still vote for him? Bullcrap and you know it! As if black people would be proud to vote for racial jungle Joe.
And you thought Trump was a racist. Ben Carson....dude.
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@metal-brain saidYeah, he got smoked in South Carolina by Marianne Williamson barely getting 96% of the vote.
Are you claiming that most black Americans know about Biden's racial jungle quote?
They know about it and still vote for him? Bullcrap and you know it! As if black people would be proud to vote for racial jungle Joe.
And you thought Trump was a racist. Ben Carson....dude.
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@no1marauder saidYou have to digress into Marianne Williamson? She has nothing to do with this and you know it. Quite pathetic that you have to use digression tactics to avoid an honest debate.
Yeah, he got smoked in South Carolina by Marianne Williamson barely getting 96% of the vote.
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@metal-brain saidYou've never engaged in "honest debate" on this Forum.
You have to digress into Marianne Williamson? She has nothing to do with this and you know it. Quite pathetic that you have to use digression tactics to avoid an honest debate.
Ever.
South Carolina Democrats are primarily Black and they aren't buying your "Joe Biden is a racist" crap. That's pretty much the end of this "debate".
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@no1marauder saidDoes a poll exist to prove how many blacks in SC know about Biden's racial jungle quote? It is quite ridiculous to claim blacks are knowingly voting for a past segregationist. They think because Obama picked him for VP he could not possibly be a past segregationist. But Obama's white ancestors were slave owners, weren't they? Do you have a poll to gauge how many black people know that?
You've never engaged in "honest debate" on this Forum.
Ever.
South Carolina Democrats are primarily Black and they aren't buying your "Joe Biden is a racist" crap. That's pretty much the end of this "debate".
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@metal-brain saidYes, if only those stupid blacks had known that Obama's ancestors had owned slaves, they would have voted Republican.
Does a poll exist to prove how many blacks in SC know about Biden's racial jungle quote? It is quite ridiculous to claim blacks are knowingly voting for a past segregationist. They think because Obama picked him for VP he could not possibly be a past segregationist. But Obama's white ancestors were slave owners, weren't they? Do you have a poll to gauge how many black people know that?
I suppose you are really that much of a moron to believe that.