10 Jul 23
@averagejoe1 saidThere is no dependence quite like the dependence of Republicans on the corporate rich. Just ask Justice Thomas.
Here is an article, see last sentence, first paragraph. "Margaret Thatcher was relatively successful in the economic, political and foreign policy spheres." So, I am following the reasoning in this article, compared to yours, which is not reasoned at all, and hereby submit it as my answer to you. I am not comfortable with 'links' which are unheard of in true debates, b ...[text shortened]... 'papers', I would the most unhappy of citizens.
I wonder an emoji of Socialism would look like?
10 Jul 23
@averagejoe1 saidThis from the man who's never gotten a single political metaphor correct.
Note that they never refer directly to the necessity of govt dependence for socialism to 'work'! Work? haha. why work, what is the diff of work under socialism....beyond just filling wheelbarrows for the citizens to feed out of. Oops, I fear libs have a hard time with metaphors
10 Jul 23
@mott-the-hoople saidThese. fellers have no concept even of what they are saying. Some of their sentences contradict each other.
where does "the peoples money" originate?
Do you get, between the lines, that they just say the money is 'there' and they will get it?
Hey, libs. If there were no billionaires, where would philanthropy come from?. We will wait, while you look up the word. Standing by.
@suzianne saidOh, not so fast. The dependence of socialists is 100%. Why would you make such a statement. You sure you want to keep this up? Did you see where Zhalanzi is just, oh, so happy, living under the thumb of socialism?
There is no dependence quite like the dependence of Republicans on the corporate rich. Just ask Justice Thomas.
Tell us how that is a happier economy than is the economy of unlimited growth allowed by Capitalism.
Catch up, your posts today are somewhat flippant, go nowhere.
11 Jul 23
@averagejoe1 saidwhat part of "doubling the poverty rate" do you have trouble understanding?
Here is an article, see last sentence, first paragraph. "Margaret Thatcher was relatively successful in the economic, political and foreign policy spheres." So, I am following the reasoning in this article, compared to yours, which is not reasoned at all, and hereby submit it as my answer to you. I am not comfortable with 'links' which are unheard of in true debates, b ...[text shortened]... 'papers', I would the most unhappy of citizens.
I wonder an emoji of Socialism would look like?
trickle-down economics is a scam, always has been and idiots like you still fall for it. The economy doing well as a whole doesn't mean the people are doing well
11 Jul 23
@zahlanzi saidOccasionally we are reminded by FOX, et al, that there are 10M jobs available in the USA. If no one wants to escape poverty, get a job, and then another job, then they must like their present status. It sounds flippant to say that, but consider, you say above that you are 'happy' living under socialism. You like socialism and all that it 'doesn't ' do for you, and they like poverty. Everyone is happy!
what part of "doubling the poverty rate" do you have trouble understanding?
trickle-down economics is a scam, always has been and idiots like you still fall for it. The economy doing well as a whole doesn't mean the people are doing well
11 Jul 23
@zahlanzi saidShe beat down the unions, for which she was duly praised. A great war leader, esp the Falklands, you left all that out. You must not like her because she does not give you free stuff. That has to be it.
Margaret Thatcher was a corporate stooge whose agenda can be characterized as british reagonomics, she increased UK's economy while doubling the poverty rate and she came up with that incredibly arrogant and ignorant piece of useless chinese fortune cookie nonsens
When all a person knows is free stuff, they know nothing else.
11 Jul 23
@averagejoe1 said"there are 10M jobs available in the USA"
Occasionally we are reminded by FOX, et al, that there are 10M jobs available in the USA. If no one wants to escape poverty, get a job, and then another job, then they must like their present status. It sounds flippant to say that, but consider, you say above that you are 'happy' living under socialism. You like socialism and all that it 'doesn't ' do for you, and they like poverty. Everyone is happy!
And the dumb, like you, don't ask any more questions. Where are these jobs. What are they. How much do they pay? Do they offer benefits like healthcare, because you uncivilized country sure as hell doesn't provide them? What is the rent situation at that wonderful job's location? Will those jobs be long term or will they also be moved to a third world location?
Of course, asking more questions involves thinking and thinking is just too much bloody work. Better to just be spoonfed some information without context and told what conclusion you're supposed to draw from it.
"If no one wants to escape poverty, get a job, and then another job"
nobody should be forced to get 1.5 jobs just so the billionaires pay less taxes
"It sounds flippant to say that"
It is, but also dumb
"You like socialism and all that it 'doesn't ' do for you, and they like poverty"
You misspelled "does".
11 Jul 23
@zahlanzi saidEntry level jobs are easily obtained. Then, after several months, you find better paying jobs which demand the experience one has learned, you know, in the entry level jobs. And up the ladder you go. Yes, most do have benefits, find a job that has benefits. You are talking about free stuff, because you are spoon-fed by your govt. I remember Shav once said med care and housing are rights. Don't tell me you think that....for a capitalistic society, that is. They are not. Rent is a private matter to work out in planning stages, like sharing an apartment. Lord, I hope this particular person does not have children. He will have a tougher time. Poor planning.
"there are 10M jobs available in the USA"
And the dumb, like you, don't ask any more questions. Where are these jobs. What are they. How much do they pay? Do they offer benefits like healthcare, because you uncivilized country sure as hell doesn't provide them? What is the rent situation at that wonderful job's location? Will those jobs be long term or will they also be mov ...[text shortened]... like socialism and all that it 'doesn't ' do for you, and they like poverty"
You misspelled "does".
As to 1.5 jobs, that is commonplace. Did it myself. Even Sean Hannity did it, construction work and a waiter. I don't get that comment, and what does that have to do with Billionaires? Maybe you are referring to the Net Worth now of Hannnity, about $30M? You see, Sean had to start somewhere. Proved it works. You don't think it works, apparently. That is why I am here, to explain these things to you fellers. Funny, if you were Shav, you would have written above.."And how much time off can I have!!" Loser city.
@AverageJoe1
You tout all that brining up a liar like Sean Hannity? GREAT argument.
But you ignore the op, REPUB STRATEGISTS ARE STUPID.
11 Jul 23
@sonhouse saidHe may lie, by your standards, I don’t know. But I did not mention his lying Why don’t you stay on the subject. I use him as a national figure who started working two jobs in his younger days and was a success. I am suggesting to Zahanzi or whomever to do the same. I think the trouble with libs like a Zahlanzi ….they want it NOW!!!!!! Greedy bunch.
@AverageJoe1
You tout all that brining up a liar like Sean Hannity? GREAT argument.
But you ignore the op, REPUB STRATEGISTS ARE STUPID.
11 Jul 23
@averagejoe1 saidby your own words. you don't think "entry level jobs" should pay enough to live on.
Entry level jobs are easily obtained. Then, after several months, you find better paying jobs which demand the experience one has learned, you know, in the entry level jobs. And up the ladder you go. Yes, most do have benefits, find a job that has benefits. You are talking about free stuff, because you are spoon-fed by your govt. I remember Shav once said med care and ho ...[text shortened]... y, if you were Shav, you would have written above.."And how much time off can I have!!" Loser city.
"Then, after several months, you find better paying jobs which demand the experience one has learned, you know, in the entry level jobs. "
oooh what are these magical, better paying jobs that require 6 months of work experience in your magical entry jobs?
you never cease to amaze me just how stupid you are
@mott-the-hoople saidFrom the people. Obviously. Where do you think the rich get their wealth? From the people.
where does "the peoples money" originate?
@averagejoe1 saidDo you depend on the government for roads, police, and the military? Yes. Do you depend on the government to enforce legally binding contracts for your alleged "business"? Yes.
Note that they never refer directly to the necessity of govt dependence for socialism to 'work'!
Therefore you, and all capitalists, depend on the government.
11 Jul 23
@zahlanzi saidAssumiing a normal young man/woman, at about $15/hr, is $30k. The good ones like McD pay bonuses, lets say $2500. Not bad, and enough to live on for a single person. Next is a move up to a managerial position, and at the same time looking at the internet search engines for better paying jobs; waitressing scores tips of upeards of $200/nite, about $1000/week. I know this as a fact. So, work those two jobs and you are over $50k, conservatively speaking. Now if you are like Shav, he has to play a lot. I am talking about hard focused work. I used to personally walk downstairs to the banking floor and transact business, and noticed daikly a REALLY sharp young lady, on bank wages. I stole her and doubled her salary, she was with me 32 years. Another secretary went to law school (paid her loan back, imagine that) and competed with me.
by your own words. you don't think "entry level jobs" should pay enough to live on.
"Then, after several months, you find better paying jobs which demand the experience one has learned, you know, in the entry level jobs. "
oooh what are these magical, better paying jobs that require 6 months of work experience in your magical entry jobs?
you never cease to amaze me just how stupid you are
YOu fellers have no imagination. And if someone is poor, hey, they want to be.
AS to your saying that I said entry level does not pay enough to live on, you are referring to when I asked you all if a living wage for a single guy flipping burgers is the same wage as the guy flipping with him that has wife and 3 kids. THAT would not cut it as a living wage. So, it is a living wage for a beginner worker, but not for a guy with more bills to pay. One of you libs answered that the guy with family should be paid more!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Geez.