15 Feb 22
@zahlanzi saidReally? I thought The Hill was a right-leaning organization.
krystal ball is not conservative
Other than a sort of consistent anti-war stance what is there to respect about Ron Paul? The man is a huge hypocrite.
It's been a while, but from what I can remember, he was more principled than other conservatives, meaning he never said anything he thought would make him popular, he was an ideologically consistent, straightforward politician who valued individual rights far more than his Republican peers.
But Sh76 quite handily shattered that image I had of him.
"For conservatives, I mean other than the obvious, like Sinema, Manchin or Lieberman."
I also don't understand this. Those three are conservatives why would they qualify for this exercise?
It was obvious that those guys, who were Democrats, would be mentioned by conservatives. I was hoping not to have to read names I already knew were coming.
15 Feb 22
@zahlanzi saidI never got the vibe that he even cared about politics, let alone had a political leaning. I agree that if Joe was a politician that he'd lean left; but as far as his podcast is concerned, he simply just has conversations; he never tries to convince people to go one way or the other.
What is he right wing on.
He may be an ignorant ashole sometimes but what does he support that is right wing? He is overwhelmingly left wing.
15 Feb 22
@sh76 saidExcept for when it comes to protecting property.
As I recall, Ron's solution for every problem was always to get government out of it.
@vivify saidTim Pool is another one. An ideological left winger, like Rogan, vilified by commies because he's principled.
It was obvious that those guys, who were Democrats, would be mentioned by conservatives. I was hoping not to have to read names I already knew were coming.
Edit: Here he is being interviewed by Krystal Ball:
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16 Feb 22
@zahlanzi saidNo, I didn't forget..
She stopped short of actively supporting an attempted coup
This is the low bar we're holding conservatives to in the US?
Did you all forget she voted like 90% of the time with Trump?
Good people may differ,
but to stand up for the truth, when it's
unpopular, makes her all the more courageous.
16 Feb 22
@jimm619 saidIt's kind of like not standing up for a woman while her husband is beating her, but taking a stand after she's murdered, when you could've called the police long ago.
No, I didn't forget..
Good people may differ,
but to stand up for the truth, when it's
unpopular, makes her all the more courageous.
Cheney stood by Trump though all his blatant lying, corruption, obstruction of justice, etc. While I agree she is still risking a lot by standing up to Trump, she still acquitted Trump in his first impeachment and voted his way.
The fact that it took a violent insurrection for her to finally oppose Trump (when she could've acted much earlier) seems like little more than a paltry consolation prize.
Still, I can't imagine what personal hardships and threats she's received from her own side for standing up to Trump. She's risking family, neighbors, coworkers, etc....she jeopardized her reputation and possibly even acceptance, from everyone she knows.
Cheney does deserve at least some credit.
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@vivify saidYes, I always liked McCain too, but never
It's kind of like not standing up for a woman while her husband is beating her, but taking a stand after she's murdered, when you could've called the police long ago.
Cheney stood by Trump though all his blatant lying, corruption, obstruction of justice, etc. While I agree she is still risking a lot by standing up to Trump, she still acquitted Trump in his first impeachm ...[text shortened]... nd possibly even acceptance, from everyone she knows.
Cheney does deserve at least some credit.
agreed with his politics either.
When he cast that one vote to save
ACA, I heard he did that only when he learned
that some 30 million would lose health care coverage.
I REALLY LOVE the film clip of McCain, on the presidential
campaign trail, when a woman in the audience claims
Obama is a Muslim, McCain grabs the mike while saying,
''.......No ma'am, he's a Christian family man.....''this is an inexact
quote, but it is truly a great moment.
16 Feb 22
@sleepyguy saidOh Christ no.
@vivify
Russel Brand
He waves his arms around like Kermit too much.
And he seems to think he’s important.
Very full of himself, he is.
16 Feb 22
@vivify said"Really? I thought The Hill was a right-leaning organization. "
Really? I thought The Hill was a right-leaning organization.
Other than a sort of consistent anti-war stance what is there to respect about Ron Paul? The man is a huge hypocrite.
It's been a while, but from what I can remember, he was more principled than other conservatives, meaning he never said anything he thought would make him popular, he was an ideologic ...[text shortened]... d be mentioned by conservatives. I was hoping not to have to read names I already knew were coming.
no idea what it can be characterized as but it's bonkers. It has a bad rep and now that Krystal Ball left it's completely bonkers (her replacement might very well be a female version of Hannity/Tucker Carlson)
16 Feb 22
@vivify said"I never got the vibe that he even cared about politics, let alone had a political leaning. "
I never got the vibe that he even cared about politics, let alone had a political leaning. I agree that if Joe was a politician that he'd lean left; but as far as his podcast is concerned, he simply just has conversations; he never tries to convince people to go one way or the other.
you can care little about politics but still have views which are left or right.
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Here is a list of what he said over the years. You can argue whethere he is sincere (though i don't see what major benefit would he reap in saying "i like Bernie, i will vote for him"😉 and maybe someone has a list of the right wing views he claimed to have (but i want to see it).
The point is, he is a meathead at times with bad opinions. He is kind of ignorant but he tries to inform himself if someone engages with him. He said some stupid stuff regarding race, trans, whatever but each of that should be judged individually and definitely not cancel him over it
But i am positive he can't be characterized as right wing.
16 Feb 22
@jimm619 saidCommon man. It's like saying a serial killer is courageous because he isn't also a pedophile.
No, I didn't forget..
Good people may differ,
but to stand up for the truth, when it's
unpopular, makes her all the more courageous.
She is objectively a bad person who just had a line she wouldn't cross.
16 Feb 22
@sleepyguy said"Tim Pool is another one. An ideological left winger"
Tim Pool is another one. An ideological left winger, like Rogan, vilified by commies because he's principled.
Edit: Here he is being interviewed by Krystal Ball:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SqXu7sjgWNA
bwhahahahaha. you're insane