26 Jul 23
@no1marauder saidA Regular walking encyclopedia
I'll take the Mayo Clinic word over a conspiracy theorist with utterly zero medical qualifications:
"Vaccines do not cause autism. A small study in 1998 suggested a link between vaccinations and autism spectrum disorder. The study was reviewed further and retracted. In addition, the author's medical license was revoked due to falsified information.
Since then, numer ...[text shortened]... tps://www.mayoclinichealthsystem.org/hometown-health/speaking-of-health/autism-vaccine-link-debunked
@no1marauder saidSo Hannah Poling was not given money from the vaccine court for her autism?
I'll take the Mayo Clinic word over a conspiracy theorist with utterly zero medical qualifications:
"Vaccines do not cause autism. A small study in 1998 suggested a link between vaccinations and autism spectrum disorder. The study was reviewed further and retracted. In addition, the author's medical license was revoked due to falsified information.
Since then, numer ...[text shortened]... tps://www.mayoclinichealthsystem.org/hometown-health/speaking-of-health/autism-vaccine-link-debunked
You know she was. Do you want to get into a contest of cherry picking studies? There are plenty of studies saying the opposite of what you are.
Why are you posting small studies? Post a real study instead of cherry picking one very small study since a normal size study will prove the opposite result.
https://kirschsubstack.com/p/vaers-data-shows-that-vaccines-cause?utm_source=profile&utm_medium=reader2
https://kirschsubstack.com/p/doctor-call-provides-even-more-evidence?utm_source=profile&utm_medium=reader2
@metal-brain saidGoalpost moving, as always.
If you were talking about the general election what do republicans have to do with with getting on the ballot?
@metal-brain said95,000 children is a "small study"?
So Hannah Poling was not given money from the vaccine court for her autism?
You know she was. Do you want to get into a contest of cherry picking studies? There are plenty of studies saying the opposite of what you are.
Why are you posting small studies? Post a real study instead of cherry picking one very small study since a normal size study will prove the opposite ...[text shortened]... //kirschsubstack.com/p/doctor-call-provides-even-more-evidence?utm_source=profile&utm_medium=reader2
You know by now that VAERS data is utterly worthless for the purposes you keep trying to use it. I can see why some people here think you a troll because you have been showed dozens of times this is the case. But one more time:
"VAERS is a publicly available, searchable database of reports that have not been verified. It simply contains whatever people have voluntarily reported. Moreover, the CDC and FDA do not restrict what people can report, as long as it happened at some point following a vaccination.
That means events that happen even years later and have no obvious connection to a vaccine, such as feelings of anger, end up reported in the system, says Talaat. “It’s very open and public and searchable. Since it’s so transparent, people don’t really understand what it’s for. They think it’s things that are vetted and have causal relationships with the vaccine.”
https://publichealth.jhu.edu/2022/what-vaers-is-and-isnt
And it's amusing that you want to provide more studies and then cite to a rabid anti-vaxxer like Steve Kirsch who has no medical qualifications whatsoever.
27 Jul 23
@no1marauder saidVAERS reports are a fraction of vaccine adverse injuries and you know it. You are being dishonest and you know it.
95,000 children is a "small study"?
You know by now that VAERS data is utterly worthless for the purposes you keep trying to use it. I can see why some people here think you a troll because you have been showed dozens of times this is the case. But one more time:
"VAERS is a publicly available, searchable database of reports that have not been verified. It simply c ...[text shortened]... and then cite to a rabid anti-vaxxer like Steve Kirsch who has no medical qualifications whatsoever.
Vaccines are not required to be tested with a placebo control group. Do you know why?
https://www.ageofautism.com/2019/01/no-us-childhood-vaccines-were-placebo-tested-why-the-pharmagovernment-complex-is-getting-desperate-to-shut-down-the-web.html
In that study you posted were the vaccines tested with a placebo control group? Yes or no?
27 Jul 23
@metal-brain saidYou don't give placebos rather than vaccines against a potentially deadly disease to children if you want to keep your medical license.
VAERS reports are a fraction of vaccine adverse injuries and you know it. You are being dishonest and you know it.
Vaccines are not required to be tested with a placebo control group. Do you know why?
https://www.ageofautism.com/2019/01/no-us-childhood-vaccines-were-placebo-tested-why-the-pharmagovernment-complex-is-getting-desperate-to-shut-down-the-web.html
In that study you posted were the vaccines tested with a placebo control group? Yes or no?
Maybe you should try some websites with actual doctors rather than anti-vaxxer cranks.
@no1marauder saidWho said anything about deadly diseases? They will not even give placebos for the chicken pox vaccine. They are obviously hiding what placebo trials will reveal. They are hiding the autism caused by vaccines.
You don't give placebos rather than vaccines against a potentially deadly disease to children if you want to keep your medical license.
Maybe you should try some websites with actual doctors rather than anti-vaxxer cranks.
Nobody is claiming there are not other causes of autism, but there are less autism causes in the unvaccinated. Placebo trials would reveal that. That is why they avoid them like the plague, even with relatively harmless chicken pox.
You really should stop defending big pharma. They bribed congress to give them immunity from most lawsuits. If their vaccines are as safe as they claim they would not need immunity from lawsuits.
https://www.congress.gov/bill/99th-congress/house-bill/5546
Now the taxpayer has to pay for the vaccine injuries and there is little incentive for vaccine makers like Pfizer (convicted criminals) to make their vaccines safer. You want convicted felons prevented from running for president to keep Trump from being POTUS again, but you do not want convicted felons barred from making vaccines and allow Pfizer to enjoy immunity from lawsuits instead. You condone convicted criminals being immune from lawsuits. SICK!
https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/justice-department-announces-largest-health-care-fraud-settlement-its-history
Can you admit that is a problem or are you going to continue to be an voluntary and unpaid propaganda mouthpiece for Pfizer? More importantly, are you going to allow the censoring of "malinformation" about Pfizer because you think the truth can be bad?
27 Jul 23
@metal-brain saidA question that has nothing to do with what I brought up.
I asked you a question about what you brought up. You are doing the goalpost moving you lying moron!
27 Jul 23
@metal-brain saidJust. Stop. Lying.
Who said anything about deadly diseases? They will not even give placebos for the chicken pox vaccine. They are obviously hiding what placebo trials will reveal. They are hiding the autism caused by vaccines.
Nobody is claiming there are not other causes of autism, but there are less autism causes in the unvaccinated. Placebo trials would reveal that. That is why they ...[text shortened]... oing to allow the censoring of "malinformation" about Pfizer because you think the truth can be bad?
@suzianne saidYou brought it up.
He does to get on the ballot.
Who does he need and who does he not need to get on the ballot?
@metal-brain saidWe've been over all this many times; the National Childhood Vaccine Injury Act of 1986 was a wise piece of legislation that has undoubtedly saved many lives. Without it, even the most beneficial vaccines would probably not make it to market because of the possibility of severe reactions in a few (which is unavoidable). https://www.justice.gov/civil/vicp#:~:text=The%20National%20Childhood%20Vaccine%20Injury,%22Program%22)%20(42%20U.S.C.
Who said anything about deadly diseases? They will not even give placebos for the chicken pox vaccine. They are obviously hiding what placebo trials will reveal. They are hiding the autism caused by vaccines.
Nobody is claiming there are not other causes of autism, but there are less autism causes in the unvaccinated. Placebo trials would reveal that. That is why they ...[text shortened]... oing to allow the censoring of "malinformation" about Pfizer because you think the truth can be bad?
Your ranting and raving and believing whatever crank anti-vaxxers tell you doesn't change that.
@no1marauder said"Without it, even the most beneficial vaccines would probably not make it to market because of the possibility of severe reactions in a few (which is unavoidable)."
We've been over all this many times; the National Childhood Vaccine Injury Act of 1986 was a wise piece of legislation that has undoubtedly saved many lives. Without it, even the most beneficial vaccines would probably not make it to market because of the possibility of severe reactions in a few (which is unavoidable).
Your ranting and raving and believing whatever crank anti-vaxxers tell you doesn't change that.
Why would relatively safe vaccines never make it to the market? You are contradicting yourself again.
Why are you condoning convicted criminals having immunity from lawsuits?
Do you like trusting convicted criminals to make safe vaccines? Be honest. Don't you think there should be exceptions for those convicted of fraud?
@no1marauder said"Your ranting and raving and believing whatever crank anti-vaxxers tell you doesn't change that."
We've been over all this many times; the National Childhood Vaccine Injury Act of 1986 was a wise piece of legislation that has undoubtedly saved many lives. Without it, even the most beneficial vaccines would probably not make it to market because of the possibility of severe reactions in a few (which is unavoidable). https://www.justice.gov/civil/vicp#:~:text=The%20Na ...[text shortened]... .
Your ranting and raving and believing whatever crank anti-vaxxers tell you doesn't change that.
Kennedy is not an anti vaxxer no matter how many times you lie about it. He has fought to make vaccines safer just like Ralph Nader fought to make automobiles safer. Is Nader anti automobile? Yes or no?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unsafe_at_Any_Speed
27 Jul 23
@metal-brain saidFigure it out for yourself, idiot. Maybe actually looking at the history might help: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Childhood_Vaccine_Injury_Act#:~:text=Only%20one%20company%20was%20still,injury%20caused%20by%20mandated%20vaccines.
"Without it, even the most beneficial vaccines would probably not make it to market because of the possibility of severe reactions in a few (which is unavoidable)."
Why would relatively safe vaccines never make it to the market? You are contradicting yourself again.
Why are you condoning convicted criminals having immunity from lawsuits?
Do you like trusting conv ...[text shortened]... e safe vaccines? Be honest. Don't you think there should be exceptions for those convicted of fraud?