Rich man Buffett can solve problem of Union!

@zahlanzi said
it's incredible to me how much you have to fight so that some workers in one particular line of work get one measly week of paid sick leave whereas other countries guarantee even months, for everyone.

Not just that but also maternity leave. Paid leave if your child gets sick, up to 30 days.

And this whiney douchebag complains as if a mother staying home to take care of her child is taking money out of his pocket and kicking him in the nuts at the same time

But Zahlanzi, one 'measly week' will evolve into more weeks, you are aware of the lib psyche? Gimme it, rich people owe us, such as that.

Up to 30 days.....You promise?? I worry that next year,,,,MORE days?!? And the whiney guy, you think that he should shut up and pay someone 'according to their needs' ? Sounds Marx to me.
You folks never stop Zahlanzi. Tell us you will not want any more of our income. Say it. What a joke are you lot.

@kevcvs57 said
The Unions are asking the profit making rail bosses to do the bare minimum and give the workers one week of sick pay if they are too Ill to go to work. I guess you are ok with a train driver going into work whilst wobbly with the flu because they cannot afford to be off.
No one is asking you fir a penny you house peasant.

Hey, I vote give it to them!! But, will that be it for you people, Kev? Dont forget $500B to tuition debt. I vote do that, too. Turn those dependents loose!!
But, that should do it, based on what I've read on the forum. No more bailing, you have to promise to not bring buckets to the trough any more. Cool?
Can you tell us the begging will stop, so that I can plan for my family's future? Do you see what I mean when I say just leave us the hell alone? Kev, how hard is it to just leave people alone? What could be easier? Tell us what I am missing here.
Be honest,,,you are gonna want more, aren't you.................

@averagejoe1 said
Hey, I vote give it to them!! But, will that be it for you people, Kev? Dont forget $500B to tuition debt. I vote do that, too. Turn those dependents loose!!
But, that should do it, based on what I've read on the forum. No more bailing, you have to promise to not bring buckets to the trough any more. Cool?
Can you tell us the begging will stop, so that I ...[text shortened]... l us what I am missing here.
Be honest,,,you are gonna want more, aren't you.................

They are not begging you idiot they are negotiating but the corporate dominated Biden administration has stabbed them in the back.
Eventually the working poor will realise that government by the people for the people is a not very funny joke that they are the butt of.
A WEEKS PAID SICK LEAVE IN A ROLLING 12 MONTH PERIOD IS WHAT THEY ARE NEGOTIATING FOR BUT A DEMOCRAT LED CONGRESS HAS SIDED WITH MEGA RICH RAIL COMPANIES.

@averagejoe1 said
You judge me poorly.
That I am not self reliant, you must refer to Obama having said 'you didn't build that'. He was saying I had to use roads, water, price, infrastructure etc to maintain my business. You and Obama are both wrong, as my taxes paid for all that support. He also did not mention risk(s) which I take every day. Y'all dont get concept of risk. Strik ...[text shortened]... ince they delivered the materials to build the house you are sitting in.
Ohhhhh Zahlanzi.......

He was referring to the corporations who rely on infrastructure for their business model but balk at paying a dime in tax to help with the cost of it not the AveJoe who is left to pick up the tab because of corporate greed you stupid or lying man

@kevcvs57 said
He was referring to the corporations who rely on infrastructure for their business model but balk at paying a dime in tax to help with the cost of it not the AveJoe who is left to pick up the tab because of corporate greed you stupid or lying man

Stupid, Kev, is Libs, who seem to not be able to grasp an issue on the forum. My point is to give them all the money they want, sick leave, forgive student debt, and let that be it. Can you just do that?, Please quit asking for more money for something else, and then more money for that. It will never stop with you people. When Shav gets 30 days paid vacation, he will then want 40.
Marauder says $5B for debts of welchers is just a drop in the bucket, he would be correct, but it wont end there. You know it, I know it, everybody knows it.

@kevcvs57 said
He was referring to the corporations who rely on infrastructure for their business model but balk at paying a dime in tax to help with the cost of it not the AveJoe who is left to pick up the tab because of corporate greed you stupid or lying man

PS. Everyone, and corps, ‘balk’ at paying taxes, but they pay them. If it is not enough money to cover what marauder calls the ‘common good’, then they raise the taxes, this is the American way. So I don’t get your point.
And I never know what you fellas mean about greed. If the corporation makes money and puts it in a safe, it is no different than my making money and putting it in the safe on my wall. At what point does that become greed? I guess we need to have a thread on greed.
There are people on this forum who actually think at the end of the day that a corporation should dole out all of the profits of the corporation evenly between all of the people at work there. What in the world is that all about?

@averagejoe1 said
Stupid, Kev, is Libs, who seem to not be able to grasp an issue on the forum. My point is to give them all the money they want, sick leave, forgive student debt, and let that be it. Can you just do that?, Please quit asking for more money for something else, and then more money for that. It will never stop with you people. When Shav gets 30 days paid vacation, he will the ...[text shortened]... the bucket, he would be correct, but it wont end there. You know it, I know it, everybody knows it.

This is how we know you’re stupid Joe these are two separate issues and only has any impact on tax dollars.
The mega rich rail companies treating their employees with a modicum of respect does not impact the tax payer in anyway.

@averagejoe1 said
But Zahlanzi, one 'measly week' will evolve into more weeks, you are aware of the lib psyche? Gimme it, rich people owe us, such as that.

Up to 30 days.....You promise?? I worry that next year,,,,MORE days?!? And the whiney guy, you think that he should shut up and pay someone 'according to their needs' ? Sounds Marx to me.
You folks never stop Zahlanzi. Tell us you will not want any more of our income. Say it. What a joke are you lot.

"But Zahlanzi, one 'measly week' will evolve into more weeks, "
as it damn should. And you would still be behind civilized countries that offer months. That offer maternity and paternity leave. That offer mandatory vacation days

"rich people owe us, such as that. "
they do. Each billionaire stole that wealth from their workers. From ordinary citizens who couldn't afford politicians that would give them tax cuts and bailouts and deregulations.

"Sounds Marx to me."
Everything sounds marx to the stupid right winger watching too much fox news. Yet Germany, Norway, Sweeden, France, Uk, Canada and many other countries run successful capitalist economies while taking way better care of their citizens


"Tell us you will not want any more of our income."
This is hilarious. We ask billionaires to pay their fair share of taxes and you pathetic schmuck use "us" as if that would ever include you. As if these billionaires would ever welcome you into their clubs.

You are the useful idiot they rely on to believe wealth would eventually trickle down. But there are less and less of you useful idiots. You're a dying breed

@averagejoe1 said
you fool no one. The money (real cash money, ended up in college coffers to pay staff and expenses)....went out to those entities, and is not is not going to come back, neither from the college nor from the students, 73% of whom will blow the money on dining and travel.
Marauder, what money are they referring to, for dining and travel?
You are king of double speak, maybe a touch of BillClinton-Speak?
What money are they referring to?

You owe me $100, I say pay me $80 and we're even.

How much money did I spend by forgiving some portion of the debt?

Answer: Zero.

@no1marauder said
You owe me $100, I say pay me $80 and we're even.

How much money did I spend by forgiving some portion of the debt?

Answer: Zero.

If you loaned me 100 and only got back 80, you have lost 20, you are short 20 from when the relationship began. You loan me 100 of your dollars at 9AM, and only get 80 of it back at 6Pm.
Marauder, where is the $20. You have been researching and linking too much, you need to get back to basic reasoning.
Yes, Clinton might say this too.
And would you school Zahlanzi on the nature of relationships between people in the free enterprise business world, he does not seem to understand, as he is more into collectivism, and everybody depending on everybody else. And he is quite unrealistic when dictating what a business owner should do with his profits, and in the running of his business. Socialists have a real problem with free enterprise.
I refrain from trying to reason evonomics with him, as I think he gets very upset with me, and I enjoy our parlance.

@zahlanzi said
"But Zahlanzi, one 'measly week' will evolve into more weeks, "
as it damn should. And you would still be behind civilized countries that offer months. That offer maternity and paternity leave. That offer mandatory vacation days

"rich people owe us, such as that. "
they do. Each billionaire stole that wealth from their workers. From ordinary citizens who couldn't affor ...[text shortened]... ould eventually trickle down. But there are less and less of you useful idiots. You're a dying breed

You lost me at fair share. Define please.
And ‘stole wealth from workers’? What?
What do you mean when you say ‘couldn’t afford? Couldn’t afford what? I have three children, I could not afford four children. Is that what you mean by not being able to afford?
Maybe take each issue one at a time to discuss, this is a lot a very unusual reasoning to me. Next you will say like Bernie that employers are responsible to pay someone a living wage. If one guy has one child, and another employee has five children, how do you define living wage when they are both working on the same job? And why would you not answer this question?

@averagejoe1 said
If you loaned me 100 and only got back 80, you have lost 20, you are short 20 from when the relationship began. You loan me 100 of your dollars at 9AM, and only get 80 of it back at 6Pm.
Marauder, where is the $20. You have been researching and linking too much, you need to get back to basic reasoning.
Yes, Clinton might say this too.
And would you school Zah ...[text shortened]... rying to reason evonomics with him, as I think he gets very upset with me, and I enjoy our parlance.

That's not what you said: you claimed money was being used to pay off the student loans under Biden's proposal. That is incorrect as the example makes clear; a partial forgiveness of a debt doesn't use money.

So stop saying it does.

@averagejoe1 said
He should not be allowed to have that much money anyway. He made it while asleep, on the backs of others. Let's get some poster boards on sticks and head to the streets.

https://truthout.org/articles/one-day-of-warren-buffett-wealth-gains-could-cover-rail-workers-paid-sick-leave/

I've often wondered where we would do bathroom business, though. Any thoughts?

You have no idea how completely wrong you are, do you?

Warren Buffett makes his money by reading 5-6 hours a day and doing deep analysis on the companies he invests in. He donates a great deal of his wealth to charity. In addition, it might interest you to know that the framers of our constitution did not design our nation to operate the same as a for profit company - they are 2 completely different institutions. Undergraduates of hamburger university at McDonalds like you are still unaware of this of course, but when you're finished studying for your lettuce exam, you might want to look into this.

Must discipline myself to stay off this debate forum. 🙄

@no1marauder said
That's not what you said: you claimed money was being used to pay off the student loans under Biden's proposal. That is incorrect as the example makes clear; a partial forgiveness of a debt doesn't use money.

So stop saying it does.

Still Clinton Speak. OK, so tell us what is meant by the millions of news reports that the forgiveness program will cost our country $500 billion?
Can you please just answer the simple question, no links, just your explanation.? I am being fair here, do not like to pick fights, I would rather discuss issues. The worst are people that take all of this personally, I think iZahlanzi is never too happy personally with me, when it all has nothing to do with me personally.

@averagejoe1 said
You lost me at fair share. Define please.
And ‘stole wealth from workers’? What?
What do you mean when you say ‘couldn’t afford? Couldn’t afford what? I have three children, I could not afford four children. Is that what you mean by not being able to afford?
Maybe take each issue one at a time to discuss, this is a lot a very unusual reasoning to me. Next you will ...[text shortened]... living wage when they are both working on the same job? And why would you not answer this question?

McHill, you think that YOU are frustrated? I cannot get the simple question, the last one in this paragraph above, answered. These are the simple questions that open a lot of issues on the forum, and make it entertaining. But nothing ever comes back.
To those who think that a corporation or a business owner needs to spread his wealth with the employees, I asked this question once. If I hire five guys and give them $500 to build a big trench in my backyard, and then go on their way… I then take a metal detector and drop down in the hole and find $5 million worth of gold, should I share that gold with the people who dug the hole, the people on whose backs I had the hole dug? As I understand the reasoning of liberals, I would have to share the gold. If you say no, no, that’s a little stretch, then it will defeat your previous arguments that the profits should be spread around. I find that a fun issue and everybody gets mad at me. .

Edit: The question up top I can’t get an answer to is how do y’all deal with the issue of a living wage…… three guys work side-by-side in the same factory on the same job. One has one child, one has no children and one has five children. How do you figure a living wage for each of these three gentleman?