Rich People and Fines

Its a good and honest idee.
Some people don't seem to understand that 1$ is a lot to a poor man but its nothing to some rich crimminal.

Originally posted by shavixmir

"Oh Mark...you're driving without a seatbelt, here's a fine."
IT'S MY BLOODY LIFE! LEAVE ME ALONE.

"Oh Mark...you parked in a wrong area. Here's a fine."
AREN'T YOU THE COUNCIL THAT'S ALLOWING THE DUMPING OF TOXIC WASTE IN THE RIVER?

"Oh Mark...Don't steal. It's so immoral."
AREN'T YOU THE GOVERNMENT THAT'S BOMBING LITTLE CHILD ...[text shortened]... in hell. Seriously I do. And I don't even believe in Hell...

go figure....

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Originally posted by DreamlaX
Nobody should want fines, but there has to be some sort of penalising system to stop you breaking the law.

Originally posted by LordOfTheChessboard
Its a good and honest idee.
Some people don't seem to understand that 1$ is a lot to a poor man but its nothing to some rich crimminal.

Originally posted by kirksey957
What would be your suggestion to reign in the crime of poor people who continually break the law?

Originally posted by KellyJay
You are suggesting that all pain we inflict on another for breaking the
law should be leveled according to the amount of money they have?

Are you also suggesting we charge for a gallon of milk the same way,
that a poor person gets it for nearly free and a rich person has to pay
maybe hundreds of dollars for it?

Kelly

Originally posted by DreamlaX
Poor people wouldn't be able to continuously break the law just as rich people wouldn't be able to. Since it's based on your income, it's essentially saying you can afford the same number of fines.

Originally posted by kirksey957
You've got to be kidding. Poor people break the law all the time. I think what you want to do is make the playing field of fines "level" or unlevel depending on how you look at it. You are saying that if rich people had higher fines to pay, it would be more of an incentive to not break the law. In theory one should know what the penalty is for breaking the law. Do you think jail times should be longer for rich people?

Originally posted by DreamlaX
Some rich bugger who earns a heap of money is not going to miss the $150 fine for not wearing a seat-belt the same way a poor person would. Fines should be based on how much you earn. It should be a fixed fraction of your income. Of course larger offenses that carry larger fines would be a larger fraction of your income.

If Inland Revenue collect the fin ...[text shortened]... that way, it's guaranteed to be paid back, and everyone will learn their lesson.

Good idea?

If we examine the "Act" or "Crime" we can say that it has a certain quality which we will call "illegal".

To "speed" is evidently one such act that qualifies for the description.

So an act of speeding is what is being "fined" or "penalized".

Can we attribute a scale of "reprehensibleness" to the act because of a quality of the perpetrator?

Yes. This is what the Nazi's did to the Juden. They (Jews) did just exactly what everyone else did. But they had a quality of "elseness" that made them an enemy. Somehow. The most common reason that was apparent at the time was that they were "Rich". Whatever that is.

So. Class warfare gets us where?

Does it seem logical to judge "actions of the masses" on a class warfare basis?

Not if you hope to avoid "final solutions" in your future.

If you do it for "money in bank" it is a short step to "skull-cap on head". They are both just indicators. Of Class.

Originally posted by CliffLandin
Anyone that is dumb enough to not wear a seatbelt will get their fine in the form of a massive head injury.

On the other hand, basing fines on ones income isn't fair at all. It is a penalty for being successful. Work a little harder and you too can pay your fine with the money in your couch.

I think you ppl don't get it, the rich don't care if they get fined 100 dollars, because that is a PENNY to them. I'm willing to bet if illegal parking only costs ya a penny, you would do it all the time, that's his point, that's the problem, the rich break the law freely this way because they simply do not care, and the point of the fines is to make ppl care, so yes, the rich need to be charged more so they do care. . .

Originally posted by StarValleyWy
If we examine the "Act" or "Crime" we can say that it has a certain quality which we will call "illegal".

To "speed" is evidently one such act that qualifies for the description.

So an act of speeding is what is being "fined" or "penalized".

Can we attribute a scale of "reprehensibleness" to the act because of a quality of the pe ...[text shortened]... in bank" it is a short step to "skull-cap on head". They are both just indicators. Of Class.

Originally posted by mateulose
Spoken like a true capitalist who has fallen for propaganda and doesn't understand the system. Buddy, the rich don't work harder then anyone else, in fact, I wouldn't be surprised if they work less harder then you. If wealth was distributed according to old fashioned hard work, the children working in sweat shops at India would be multi-millionaires, of ...[text shortened]... u are screwing the world for the rest of us "lesser" folks who make up most of the planet. . .

Originally posted by StarValleyWy
I already said we should shoot all rich people. As per your dream.

All you are doing is ranting. Explain why and how a certain act of speeding should carry a stiffer penalty based on class. Then how you are not a nazi.