Originally posted by SleepyguyYou suggested that I "engaged" whodey for "sport". So he can say what he wants... cretinously so, first thing off the top of his head, and all the rest [he can distance himself from it later, it's just Debates, after all] ... but a rebuttal is "sports"? You called it. Have I got you right?
I'm not sure what you mean by my "sports" thing.
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Originally posted by FMFWould you believe that I'm a softie? 😉
What is it that motivates you to embrace the whodey take on this? I understand and respect your take. But why would you come to whodey's rescue? Is it just a spectrum thing? Is it just partisan thing? Gut feeling? Is it just "...sports"? From where I am, whodey [and Seitse] are an embarrassment to you, equivalent to how bad 'living in a cave' is. Why do y ...[text shortened]... involves joining up with the likes of the deceitful, small minded, swallow-anything whodey?
Well, to start with, I don't think whodey is malicious at all. I think that whodey is consistently fed a freep-like line (in chain emails, right wing sites and maybe a dash of Fox news) and mostly just wants to believe it. Half the time he's self-deprecating, rhetorical and/or half-joking and I think that's a symptom of his not always really fully believing his own rhetoric. I sense that some of whodey's act is based on a desire to bring balance to what he perceives as pro-statist rhetoric and perhaps because he's come to believe that is what's expected of him on this forum. There is no doubt in my mind that some of whodey's posts are intentionally class-clownish. Whodey is about halfway between Uther and GRANNY on the spectrum of the seriousness of the hard right leaning posters. I find livin' and all of his aliases to be malicious, angry, anti-Semitic, hateful and spiteful. I don't think it's a great comparison to whodey who is, I think, only about 60% serious in these anti-statist/ anti-Obama diatribes.
I do find some of Sietse's anti-Arab and anti-Muslim rhetoric to be disturbing. Maybe I should criticize it more heavily; but there are always plenty of people who are willing to step up on that front. I'll keep the point in mind for the future though.
I wouldn't characterize myself as being in whodey's "corner." On this thread, it's not really about right-left anyway. The main reason I came to his "defense" on this thread is that you were using his inexact and sloppy phrasing to tie him up in knots. He's no rhetorical match for you. You know that and he knows that. Heck, I'm not sure if I'm a rhetorical match for you. Fish in a barrel. I felt a little bad for the guy. Shoot me. :'(
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Originally posted by Sleepyguywhodey needs you to straighten things out, something like that? You enjoy making a sport out of defending whodey when he has been picked apart? That kind of thing?
No no no. Geez. I'm only saying, rather tongue-in-cheek-like, that you seem to enjoy making a sport out of picking whodey apart. Chill dude.
Originally posted by sh76THAT's the sport I was getting at FMF, the sport of you shooting fish in a barrel. Not sure why you bother as whodey's not really taking it seriously. That's all. Didn't mean to get your panties in a bunch.
He's no rhetorical match for you. You know that and he knows that. Fish in a barrel.(
Originally posted by SleepyguyIs there something I don't know about whodey? Why are people like you and sh76 coming to his rescue on a public forum? He posted. Someone responded. Shot fish in a barrel. And yet you're not defending what he said. You're defending him. Am I in the dark about something? Or is it a gut-wrench partisan thing? Is it a human decency thing?
THAT's the sport I was getting at FMF, the sport of you shooting fish in a barrel. Not sure why you bother as whodey's not really taking it seriously. That's all. Didn't mean to get your panties in a bunch.
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Originally posted by FMFWhy are you still up? Isn't it 2:20 in the morning there?
Is there something I don't know about whodey? Why are people like you and sh76 coming to his rescue on a public forum? He posted. Someone responded. Shot fish in a barrel. And yet you're not defending what he said. You're defending him. Am I in the dark about something? Or is it a gut-wrench partisan thing? Is it a human decency thing?
Get some sleep, buddy. 😉
Originally posted by SleepyguyYou characterize him as a "fish" in a "barrel". And you claim I am "shooting" him? Are you defending me or are you defending whodey? Are you saying the debate about Leningrad should stop or the debate about Leningrad should go on?
Have I defended whodey here?
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Originally posted by sh76If you and Sleepyguy are trying to tell me something about whodey - some reason why one shouldn't debate him or some condition he has - why not PM me? Why this public protective thing?
Why are you still up? Isn't it 2:20 in the morning there?
Get some sleep, buddy.
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Originally posted by SleepyguyYou're right. It's no kind of pastime. This was the catalyst I needed.
Oh come on. Didn't mean to kill your fun. Please carry on. If you find debating "deceitful, small minded, swallow-anything whodey" a useful pastime then knock yourself out.
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Originally posted by FMFYou appear to be dreadfully worked up by this character called 'whodey' who is clearly baiting you and enjoying it.
If you and Sleepyguy are trying to tell me something about whodey - some reason why one shouldn't debate him or some condition he has - why not PM me? Why this public protective thing?
Originally posted by FMFunfamiliar with the term Iron Curtain?
From a book review: [b]"The Nazi siege of Leningrad from 1941 to 1943, during which time the city was cut off from the rest of the world, was one of the most gruesome episodes of World War II. In scale, the tragedy of Leningrad dwarfs even the Warsaw ghetto or Hiroshima."
Why is the siege of Leningrad so often overlooked?
Does humanity have diff ...[text shortened]... es modern global round the clock competitive media coverage affect both perception and memory?[/b]