@wajoma saidWhat a halfwit you are, that was an attempt to install a state that was finished with democracy clownboy.
Can't dumb it down any lower, the Capitol is not the US goobermint. The state worshippers got upset their church had a little shake up, they got upset that not everyone bows before their religion; the state. The US goobermint just keeps rolling regardless of what happens to a symbol.
You may not want to decide 💩 for yourself but the majority of us grown ups get that there are no really good governments but if we are going to get screwed it’s nice if they dress up a bit and at least pretend to like you.
05 May 23
@shavixmir saidThe point being, it wasn't a coup.
Did they use violence to enter a government building?
Yes. Yes they did.
End of.
If your coup fails (whether planned or not) , yer fukked.
And their coup failed. They’re fukked.
If you don’t want to be raped by the bear, stop trying to finger it.
05 May 23
@suzianne saidIn North Korea I don't doubt they pledge allegiance to Kim Dong Un.
Tell that to the millions of American schoolchildren who pledged their allegiance to the flag every day for decades.
And as far as "state worshippers" goes, doesn't Australia have a similar "Australian citizenship affirmation"?
07 May 23
@divegeester saidThere was no attempted coup on Jan 6 unless you thin k the FBI is lying.
I think it’s new and exciting.
Trumpist has insurrectionists getting their comeuppance.
Quality newness
Do you think the FBI is lying?
https://www.reuters.com/world/us/exclusive-fbi-finds-scant-evidence-us-capitol-attack-was-coordinated-sources-2021-08-20/
The CIA meddled in our elections to put Biden in office though. You like CIA election
meddling as long as they install what you perceive as the lesser evil. So you have your evil guy as your term limited dictator so you are happy. Right?
https://rumble.com/v2mad7k-how-cia-interfered-in-2020-election-for-biden.html
@shavixmir saidTrue, shag doody for brains, I've tried to define the coup. What would it look like, how it might proceed, how they would go about conducting business in the days following the 6th, would they start writing law, would they make a bonfire and burn a bunch of old laws, how would they disseminate and enforce the new law, technical things like setting up a connection to europe or china to tell them "You're dealing with us now, if Biden rings don't pick up the ph." and what would they eat if the cops didn't allow food in, or didn't allow ink for the printers to cross the line, would the guy with the horns eventually change into a suit and tie but keep the horns and face paint. But nothing remotely realistic or resembling a coup could be deduced.
Sorry moron, you don’t get to define the situation.
The winning side does. They’re fukked. And you’re retarded.
So from the beginning I've been asking suzi, kev ten-types-of-turd, zahlooney bamboozle and others, how did they picture the coup, how, in their imagination, would the coup scenario play out.
But you know what? Nothing.
Because the idea of a coup is utterly bonkers.
07 May 23
@metal-brain saidAn impartial jury saw evidence you have not and heard arguments you have not; they were convinced beyond a reasonable doubt. The objections you raise are not reasonable and based on ignorance of the evidence presented and the arguments made in court.
There was no attempted coup on Jan 6 unless you thin k the FBI is lying.
Do you think the FBI is lying?
https://www.reuters.com/world/us/exclusive-fbi-finds-scant-evidence-us-capitol-attack-was-coordinated-sources-2021-08-20/
The CIA meddled in our elections to put Biden in office though. You like CIA election
meddling as long as they install what you perceive as ...[text shortened]... u are happy. Right?
https://rumble.com/v2mad7k-how-cia-interfered-in-2020-election-for-biden.html
07 May 23
@wajoma saidAn impartial jury saw evidence you have not and heard arguments you have not; they were convinced beyond a reasonable doubt. The objections you raise are not reasonable and based on ignorance of the evidence presented and the arguments made in court.
How many times I've asked.
Play out the scenario, there are a few meanderers, there's a guy wearing horns, there's no organisation, there's no plan.
kev ten-types-of-turd, suzi and a couple of other nutcases think that's what it takes to overthrow the worlds most powerful goobermint. The absolute worst case scenario is the pollies carry on business as usual in some bu ...[text shortened]... ds up a day or two later.
That's the makings of a 'facist regime' in kev ten-types-of-tards mind.
@moonbus saidEvidence that rogue individuals who were not part of a organized conspiracy to overthrow the government thought they could because they were morons.
An impartial jury saw evidence you have not and heard arguments you have not; they were convinced beyond a reasonable doubt. The objections you raise are not reasonable and based on ignorance of the evidence presented and the arguments made in court.
That is not a coup attempt. That is a couple of nut jobs that were really stupid. Know the difference.
@wajoma saidWhat the insurrectionists were trying to do is to stop the certification of the Presidential election. If they had succeeded in breaking into the House and Senate chambers when the Representatives and Senators were still there they could have effectively held the members hostage until they accepted various slates of "delegates" from certain States that would vote for Trump rather than for the actual winner of their States Joe Biden. Is that far fetched? Given that even after the riot:
True, shag doody for brains, I've tried to define the coup. What would it look like, how it might proceed, how they would go about conducting business in the days following the 6th, would they start writing law, would they make a bonfire and burn a bunch of old laws, how would they disseminate and enforce the new law, technical things like setting up a connection to europe or ...[text shortened]... cenario play out.
But you know what? Nothing.
Because the idea of a coup is utterly bonkers.
"However, 121 House Republicans, or 57 percent of the House Republican caucus, chose to vote in favor of the baseless belief that Arizona’s Electoral College votes were somehow compromised. And 138 House Republicans voted in favor of challenging Pennsylvania’s results."
https://www.vox.com/2021/1/7/22218225/house-republicans-senate-electoral-college-votes-storm-capitol-election-stop-the-steal-trump-biden
I don't think so.
So there would be no need for the insurrectionists themselves to do the things you have thought up; the government would continue just with Trump remaining President after his term was supposed to expire about two weeks later. There's a reason his supporters were called to Washington on that specific day.
Mobs, of course, have overthrown governments in the past. In 2014, armed ultranationalists took control of government buildings in Kyiv to nullify an agreement between the President and the three largest opposition parties which called for reforms and early elections because they wanted the President's immediate removal. This succeeded; the President and his followers in Parliament fled and then he was illegally removed.
One can go further back in history and find Mussolini's march on Rome as another example where mobs forced a change in government.
Nor is possibility of success a factor in deciding whether someone has attempted to overthrow or hinder the execution of any law in the US; John Brown's plan to have about a dozen men steal some arms from a US armory and then arm slaves to end slavery was hardly likely to work but that didn't prevent him from being hanged for trying to implement it.
07 May 23
@shallow-blue saidAnd to God
Exactly. That's just as evil - no more, no less - as making pre-schoolers swear their soul away to the rag of the USA.
07 May 23
@no1marauder saidThere you go again. You are pretending congress did not have an easy escape through the subway system. There was no chance of any of them becoming hostages.
What the insurrectionists were trying to do is to stop the certification of the Presidential election. If they had succeeded in breaking into the House and Senate chambers when the Representatives and Senators were still there they could have effectively held the members hostage until they accepted various slates of "delegates" from certain States that would vote for Trum ...[text shortened]... was hardly likely to work but that didn't prevent him from being hanged for trying to implement it.
There were no insurrectionists. There were a few rednecks who did stupid things without direction from anyone else. You have a loony imagination stoked by propaganda.