Should RHP ban for misinformation?

@vivify said
https://vaers.hhs.gov/data.html

VAERS has a disclaimer right on its main page explaining that they are only collecting reports and not giving verified data. It's not "misinformation" if the site makes that clear right from the beginning.

It's not the fault of VAERS that conservatives are too stupid to understand disclaimers.

If it means nothing then why is the government reporting it?

Don't you think it is silly that government reporting is being censored from social media because government doesn't want you to believe the numbers it gives us?

Why doesn't government just stop giving us those numbers if they fear people will believe them so much?

@metal-brain said
If it means nothing then why is the government reporting it?

Don't you think it is silly that government reporting is being censored from social media because government doesn't want you to believe the numbers it gives us?

Why doesn't government just stop giving us those numbers if they fear people will believe them so much?

You're asking the wrong question. You should be asking why you and Marjorie Taylor Greene are too inept to do basic research, like read a giant disclosure on a website you use as a source.

That site makes absolutely no secret about the fact that it simply collects reports that may or not have been verified. MTG still posting numbers from that site as if they're verified means that she is either woefully incompetent or utterly dishonest. That's hard to tell with Miss "Jewish Space Laser". With you, we can only assume both.

@vivify said
You're asking the wrong question. You should be asking why you and Marjorie Taylor Greene are too inept to do basic research, like read a giant disclosure on a website you use as a source.

That site makes absolutely no secret about the fact that it simply collects reports that may or not have been verified. MTG still posting numbers from that site as if they're verified ...[text shortened]... dishonest. That's hard to tell with Miss "Jewish Space Laser". With you, we can only assume both.

Then point out the disclosure. Twitter could have done that.
Why ban her? Why do you condone that?

VAERS reports are an under estimate. Most do not get reported.
Could it be that you fear an honest debate about whether the VAERS numbers are overestimates or underestimates?

Do you honestly think people are reporting adverse events that never happened? It sounds like you have a conspiracy theory.

@metal-brain said
Do you honestly think people are reporting adverse events that never happened? It sounds like you have a conspiracy theory.

Do you know how many anti-vax wackos believe vaccines caused autism? There's a long list of claims antivaxxers falsely attribute to vaccines. This is nothing new. To pretend you're unaware of this is more dishonesty.

@vivify said
Do you know how many anti-vax wackos believe vaccines caused autism? There's a long list of claims antivaxxers falsely attribute to vaccines. This is nothing new. To pretend you're unaware of this is more dishonesty.

Vaccines caused autism.

https://medium.com/@kimberlydrake21/cdc-quietly-removes-vaccines-do-not-cause-autism-from-autism-and-vaccines-webpage-39522ee61968

Do you know how many pro vaxxer cultists have said that has been debunked when the opposite is true? This is nothing new. Remember when Trump said mail in voting would allow more voter fraud and the corporate news media said that was debunked? It was true.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/heed-jimmy-carter-on-the-danger-of-mail-in-voting-11586557667

Saying something has been debunked and proving it are very different things. Attacking the source doesn't prove anything either. That is what people do when they cannot prove it wrong.

@metal-brain said
Do you honestly think people are reporting adverse events that never happened?

Your post above proves my point. The vaccine-Autism link has been debunked too many times to rehash. But yes; people, like you, as your post shows, are reporting things with vaccines that probably never happened. Hence, the VAERS disclosure.

@vivify said
Your post above proves my point. The vaccine-Autism link has been debunked too many times to rehash. But yes; people, like you, as your post shows, are reporting things with vaccines that probably never happened. Hence, the VAERS disclosure.

"vaccine-Autism link"

Which vaccine-Autism link? You say that as if there is some holy vaccine-Autism link akin to the bible or something like that. Like the one and only god inspired story.

What specifically has been debunked? Are you claiming the vaccine courts have not compensated anybody for vaccine caused Autism? They have.

Your post proves my point. If you had the power to censor you would censor based on rumor rather than fact. You have no evidence there is no vaccine/autism link, yet a myth is enough for you to reject it.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/family-to-receive-15m-plus-in-first-ever-vaccine-autism-court-award/

@metal-brain said
It was government data. What was misleading about it?

The context? I haven't seen it and probably can't any more, but it is the habit of such people to put correct data in the wrong context and then claim it proves their misleading conclusion.

For instance, they might show - correctly - that in many places, stork populations and birth rates are both declining, and use that to "prove" that storks bring babies. Or they might use VAERS data for a purpose VAERS itself explicitly says its data is unsuited for, and use that to "prove" that Fauci is lying to us because he "wants to kill the American people", or similar rot.

@metal-brain said
Vaccines caused autism.

That is hate speech against autists.

@metal-brain said
Vaccines caused autism.

https://medium.com/@kimberlydrake21/cdc-quietly-removes-vaccines-do-not-cause-autism-from-autism-and-vaccines-webpage-39522ee61968

Do you know how many pro vaxxer cultists have said that has been debunked when the opposite is true? This is nothing new. Remember when Trump said mail in voting would allow more voter fraud and the corporate news ...[text shortened]... ng the source doesn't prove anything either. That is what people do when they cannot prove it wrong.

Debunked garbage.

@metal-brain said
"vaccine-Autism link"

Which vaccine-Autism link? You say that as if there is some holy vaccine-Autism link akin to the bible or something like that. Like the one and only god inspired story.

What specifically has been debunked? Are you claiming the vaccine courts have not compensated anybody for vaccine caused Autism? They have.

Your post proves my point. If you ...[text shortened]...

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/family-to-receive-15m-plus-in-first-ever-vaccine-autism-court-award/

The article clearly states vaccines "didn't cause her Autism"---the article's exact words. More proof you don't read your own sources.

The article also says the family gave an 18-month-old 9 vaccines in one doctor visit. That many at one time is probably a bad idea, especially for a small child.

Most importantly, the child had an underlying mitochondrial condition that was exacerbated by that cocktail of vaccines. This is like suing a children's summer camp for playing outside because it turned out a child had Erythropoietic Protoporphyria, a disease that makes children allergic to sunlight.

Will you now claim that playing outside is dangerous because of this?

FFS, please read your own sources before posting them. This didn't even go to trial, it was settled beforehand.

@shallow-blue said
The context? I haven't seen it and probably can't any more, but it is the habit of such people to put correct data in the wrong context and then claim it proves their misleading conclusion.

For instance, they might show - correctly - that in many places, stork populations and birth rates are both declining, and use that to "prove" that storks bring babies. Or they mig ...[text shortened]... to "prove" that Fauci is lying to us because he "wants to kill the American people", or similar rot.

Twitter and Facebook are perfectly able to impose that context. They already do that with fact checks and explain any missing context there may be. There is no need to ban the information.
They can automatically put the VAERS disclaimer on every VAERS related post. Banning it is extreme and implies hostility to government data as if it is misinformation.

VAERS data is NOT misinformation.

@vivify said
The article clearly states vaccines "didn't cause her Autism"---the article's exact words. More proof you don't read your own sources.

The article also says the family gave an 18-month-old 9 vaccines in one doctor visit. That many at one time is probably a bad idea, especially for a small child.

Most importantly, the child had an underlying mitochondrial condition that ...[text shortened]... read your own sources before posting them. This didn't even go to trial, it was settled beforehand.

"The article clearly states vaccines "didn't cause her Autism"---the article's exact words"

That is not true. I read the government's exact quote. The government did NOT use those exact words. Where is the exact quote? You should be banned for misinformation. You are doing exactly what you say others should be banned for. You are proving my point.

What is the difference between "caused" and "resulted"? There is no difference. They used word games to avoid admitting the obvious. They paid that family money for it. That in itself is an obvious admission. If it didn't cause her autism why did government give them millions?

If the vaccine didn't cause her autism is this a scam that deserves a criminal investigation? What did they get all that money for?

@metal-brain said
"The article clearly states vaccines "didn't cause her Autism"---the article's exact words"

That is not true. The article did NOT use those exact words.

Yes, the article did use those exact words, reporting what the government said.

More proof you don't read your own sources.

@metal-brain said
"vaccine-Autism link"

Which vaccine-Autism link? You say that as if there is some holy vaccine-Autism link akin to the bible or something like that. Like the one and only god inspired story.

What specifically has been debunked? Are you claiming the vaccine courts have not compensated anybody for vaccine caused Autism? They have.

Your post proves my point. If you ...[text shortened]...

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/family-to-receive-15m-plus-in-first-ever-vaccine-autism-court-award/

...If you had the power...

And therein lies the rub. Conservatives screaming "What about the first amendment?" when their twitter feed is disabled for a few hours because they constantly post puke or they lose a book deal for inciting a riot or whatever they're whining about are really mad that they've lost the power to control who hears their whining.

Stop whining. Twitter has the power because they're a huge powerful rich company. Government could end twitter if they wanted to but the whining is more fun.