24 Feb 23
@Phranny said - The main cause of the recent train wreak and chemical spill was due to deregulation under Trump.
That rumor was actually started by Buttigieg but was quickly debunked.
Fact Check: Pete Buttigieg Blames Trump for Ohio Train Disaster
CLAIM: U.S. Secretary of Transportation Pete Buttigieg is blaming former President Donald Trump for the train disaster in East Palestine, Ohio, claiming, “we’re constrained by law on some areas of rail regulation,” and citing a “braking rule” that was withdrawn under the Trump administration.
VERDICT: False.
While it is true that in 2018 the Department of Transportation (DOT) withdrew a proposed rule requiring trains carrying certain dangerous chemicals to use electronically controlled pneumatic (ECP) brakes, this rule would not have applied to the train that derailed in East Palestine on February 3.
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https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2023/02/16/fact-check-pete-buttigieg-blames-trump-ohio-train-disaster/
24 Feb 23
@earl-of-trumps saidTrump repealed a law which would have demanded train companies upgraded the braking systems; and you are defending Trump using a Breitbart “fact check”
@Phranny said - The main cause of the recent train wreak and chemical spill was due to deregulation under Trump.
That rumor was actually started by Buttigieg but was quickly debunked.
Fact Check: Pete Buttigieg Blames Trump for Ohio Train Disaster
CLAIM: U.S. Secretary of Transportation Pete Buttigieg is blaming former President Donald Trump fo ...[text shortened]... ://www.breitbart.com/politics/2023/02/16/fact-check-pete-buttigieg-blames-trump-ohio-train-disaster/
You would be better off if you were less of a Trump apologist.
24 Feb 23
@earl-of-trumps saidSo the train wasn’t carrying dangerous chemicals then, the people of East Palestine will be relieved to hear that.
@Phranny said - The main cause of the recent train wreak and chemical spill was due to deregulation under Trump.
That rumor was actually started by Buttigieg but was quickly debunked.
Fact Check: Pete Buttigieg Blames Trump for Ohio Train Disaster
CLAIM: U.S. Secretary of Transportation Pete Buttigieg is blaming former President Donald Trump fo ...[text shortened]... ://www.breitbart.com/politics/2023/02/16/fact-check-pete-buttigieg-blames-trump-ohio-train-disaster/
24 Feb 23
@wajoma saidLol yeah because you have to live in a Socialist state to have decent H & S regulation, it’s either or I guess, it’s a pity you cannot have reasonable regulation of private companies without moving to N Korea or travelling back in time to Stalinist Russia but hey what can you do.🤷🏻♂️
You're being a little cryptic here, are you saying these types of disasters don't happen in socialist states and with state owned Co's?
@kevcvs57 saidWell, anything decent Australia (or New Zealand) has, has absolutely nothing to do with wajoma. He's an ignorant right-wing moron.
Lol yeah because you have to live in a Socialist state to have decent H & S regulation, it’s either or I guess, it’s a pity you cannot have reasonable regulation of private companies without moving to N Korea or travelling back in time to Stalinist Russia but hey what can you do.🤷🏻♂️
24 Feb 23
@shavixmir saidshag, shag doody
Well, anything decent Australia (or New Zealand) has, has absolutely nothing to do with wajoma. He's an ignorant right-wing moron.
are, are you stalk, stalking me
yes, yes you are.
24 Feb 23
@wajoma saidOh. You can’t think of anything witty, so you re-use my gag and fail to amuse anyone.
shag, shag doody
are, are you stalk, stalking me
yes, yes you are.
You little loser you.
You’re like a parasitic koala that’s lost its teeth and claws, so falls to the ground, legs up in the air, screeching in dismay.
Poor you. Poor little clawless koala parasite.
24 Feb 23
@shavixmir saidIt is weird to see a person of Shav's persuasion to use the word parasite in a derogatory way.
Oh. You can’t think of anything witty, so you re-use my gag and fail to amuse anyone.
You little loser you.
You’re like a parasitic koala that’s lost its teeth and claws, so falls to the ground, legs up in the air, screeching in dismay.
Poor you. Poor little clawless koala parasite.
Somewhat like an oxymoron.
@averagejoe1 saidAlas, with you we must drop the ox part of it all.
It is weird to see a person of Shav's persuasion to use the word parasite in a derogatory way.
Somewhat like an oxymoron.
24 Feb 23
@wajoma saidUnfortunately, life is not that simple. Vaccines are pricey to develop and must be administered to vast numbers of people in a short period of time to be effective. The cost to individuals must be minimal or free. If not, the effort is pointless. Many other life saving drugs are also very expensive to develop, hence the government supports. The same can be said for other industries. The most important thing is to prevent price gouging and prevent monopolies so there is competition.
Phanny:
"When corporations, for example the pharmaceutical sector, takes millions in tax dollars to support their research..."
= not capitalism.
The solution is: more capitalism, less socialism in the example you just cited. The goobermint money allowed, enabled, promoted the mega drug corps to become bigger, stifling all the smaller players. And of course w ...[text shortened]... your solution of the state taking control after giving them millions is socialism in anyone's book.
24 Feb 23
@averagejoe1 saidSounds to me like you are a lib, Joe.
All correct. My agreement with Phranny above is that price gouging should fall under some serious consequences at some point. But ONLY if the government is involved with funding, as Phranny suggests.
If I invent the cure for aids and y'all flock to my door to buy some, I can gouge, it is no one's business what I charge. I charge whatever I want to. If the govern ...[text shortened]... , alas, the govt would have a say-so. This is common sense, but then, libs do not get common sense.
24 Feb 23
@earl-of-trumps saidbreitbart is worse than Fox (not) News. A totally unreliable source.
@Phranny said - The main cause of the recent train wreak and chemical spill was due to deregulation under Trump.
That rumor was actually started by Buttigieg but was quickly debunked.
Fact Check: Pete Buttigieg Blames Trump for Ohio Train Disaster
CLAIM: U.S. Secretary of Transportation Pete Buttigieg is blaming former President Donald Trump fo ...[text shortened]... ://www.breitbart.com/politics/2023/02/16/fact-check-pete-buttigieg-blames-trump-ohio-train-disaster/
24 Feb 23
@shavixmir saidMy post is proof I am not! Take that!
Alas, with you we must drop the ox part of it all.
24 Feb 23
@phranny saidAnyone who listens to Alex Marlowe 9AM each day would quite disagree. BTW he is quite inquisitive about delving into both sides.
breitbart is worse than Fox (not) News. A totally unreliable source.