03 Feb 22
@mott-the-hoople saidYou have conveniently ignored the fact that illegal entries into the US went up during Trump's years in the White House.
“ There's plenty of evidence all over this forum. Once something is said by someone and you agree with that statement then there's no way anyone is changing your mind... ”
exactly what the state run lib media does…and you libs blissfully follow. That is the reason you cant win debates when the facts are presented.
Right. Libs do it too. How do we stop it?
03 Feb 22
@wajoma saidits kind of weird that the poster is doing what they are accusing others of doing…its an old trick, only works on libs.
Children will be hospitalized, there are children that react badly to every shot, there are children who do not receive any shots for anything because of the potential for a bad reaction.
You're spreading intentional misinformation.
The best remedy is to get medical advise from a doctor and not from a guy named Metal Brain who posts his beliefs on a chess forum.
All medical treatment including vaccines has risks. It seems obvious that the risk of not getting a vaccine is greater than getting a vaccine but we allow people to have control over their bodies (isn't that the legalize abortion argument?).
The left gives misinformation too. Biden outright lied when he said we wouldn't have inflation when he printed money to implement his economic ideas. Would the president also be subject to the same rules on intentional misinformation?
@quackquack saidPerhaps I should have defined 'intentional misinformation' - misinformation is still information, but that information is designed to be misleading.
The best remedy is to get medical advise from a doctor and not from a guy named Metal Brain who posts his beliefs on a chess forum.
All medical treatment including vaccines has risks. It seems obvious that the risk of not getting a vaccine is greater than getting a vaccine but we allow people to have control over their bodies (isn't that the legalize abortion argument?). ...[text shortened]... onomic ideas. Would the president also be subject to the same rules on intentional misinformation?
I don't think Biden's inflation argument is the same thing. That's just someone making an incorrect economic prediction. If he had said "Walmart stock went up 20% in 2008" as part of an argument suggesting that the economy was doing well that year, that would be deliberate misinformation. Technically speaking, it's true, but it's intent is to misinform people.
I agree. The left does it too.
03 Feb 22
@suzianne saidSame old story,
Bulls---!!
Have you read the Mueller Report?
Apparently not.
"A foreign source."
Christopher David Steele is a British former intelligence officer with the Secret Intelligence Service from 1987 until his retirement in 2009. He ran the Russia desk at MI6 headquarters in London between 2006 and 2009. (Wikipedia)
But you'd rather trust Russians, after they interfere in our elections.
toss around unfounded
accusations, smear tactics.
Next thing they'll tell us HILLARY runs
a pedophile ring out of a pizza place in NYC. 😛
Why do they NEVER POST WELL SOURCED FACTS?
03 Feb 22
@wildgrass saidMisinformation on vaccines is a more serious problem as it effects the health of everyone. However, to say Biden made an incorrect prediction on inflation is a gross understatement. Every real economist knew we would have serious inflation just as every real immunologist would recommend vaccines.
Perhaps I should have defined 'intentional misinformation' - misinformation is still information, but that information is designed to be misleading.
I don't think Biden's inflation argument is the same thing. That's just someone making an incorrect economic prediction. If he had said "Walmart stock went up 20% in 2008" as part of an argument suggesting that the economy w ...[text shortened]... cally speaking, it's true, but it's intent is to misinform people.
I agree. The left does it too.
@wildgrass saidhaha, 'partial truth' it's what you use to cover your own closed, made up, un budgeble mind. Listen to yourself.
Ok let's back it up.
Both are deliberate misinformation because they are meant to make you believe something that is not true. In the first case, "children will be hospitalized" is a partial truth but still misinformation because the statement is intentionally designed to make you believe vaccines are harmful. It ignores other facts from hundreds of scientists and more t ...[text shortened]... own research!!) It is designed to make you think seatbelts are bad. Decapitation is extremely rare.
You've chosen a bad example to make your point, it's too late to edit it, just make a post retracting your own misinformation.
03 Feb 22
@wildgrass saidThe example you used in the OP was not misinformation.
What?
You have backed down now and are using weasel words calling it a "partial truth".
If it is a partial truth what percentage of it is true and what percentage of it is false?
You are calling something that is 100% true > partial truth
So that you may now take another step and call a 'partial truth' > misinformation.
You''re the one suffering from exactly what the OP post was about. You've shut your mind.
@wajoma saidYou're making a pointless semantics argument. Partial truth and misinformation are the same thing. I already clarified the language so I don't understand why you keep bringing it up. It is misinformation aka misleading information aka partial truth aka fake news.
The example you used in the OP was not misinformation.
You have backed down now and are using weasel words calling it a "partial truth".
If it is a partial truth what percentage of it is true and what percentage of it is false?
You are calling something that is 100% true > partial truth
So that you may now take another step and call a 'partial truth' > misinformation.
You''re the one suffering from exactly what the OP post was about. You've shut your mind.
@wildgrass saidThe so called 'partial truth' is 100% true.
You're making a pointless semantics argument. Partial truth and misinformation are the same thing. I already clarified the language so I don't understand why you keep bringing it up. It is misinformation aka misleading information aka partial truth aka fake news.
Words have meanings.
No problem I can stand back and look, you've become a victim of the very one eyed view you accuse of others. Of course you don't see it, it requires work and introspection.
@wajoma saidYessss. Words have meaning. The example I posted fits the definition of misinformation.
The so called 'partial truth' is 100% true.
Words have meanings.
No problem I can stand back and look, you've become a victim of the very one eyed view you accuse of others. Of course you don't see it, it requires work and introspection.
Are you thinking we should change the definition to fit your argument?
@wildgrass saidIs the 'partial truth' 100% true?
Yessss. Words have meaning. The example I posted fits the definition of misinformation.
Are you thinking we should change the definition to fit your argument?
Answer that and you'll be on the road to an epiphany
@wildgrass saidThe only solution for misinformation is providing better information more persuasively. No one body can arbitrate truth.
There's plenty of evidence all over this forum. Once something is said by someone and you agree with that statement then there's no way anyone is changing your mind...
Dr. Robert Malone says vaccines are "not working" and children "will be hospitalized" from the vaccine. Metal Brain hears it and believes it whole cloth, even though I could find hundreds of research artic ...[text shortened]... ar it, agree with it, and never change their minds.
What's the solution here? Facts don't matter.
Just to cite one example, I think we're both reasonably intelligent people, but for every last bit of frustration you feel at Pillow Guy's drivel is mirrored (and possibly then some) when the Twitteratti and even school officials start talking about slapping N95's on first graders. Every last bit of contempt you have for Robert Malone and his anti-vax nonsense I feel for the NYC idiots who didn't let my 10 year old into a show with my wife and other daughters because she's only had one vax dose.
Just consider this: the idiots you're referring to have very little power. The child-abusing Covidians govern New York City.