Student Loan Forgiveness

@kellyjay said
Fair? I paid mine off. Do I get a check to recoup my time and effort for someone
else who gets to avoid paying off all of their debt? The money shelled out to give
the loan in the first place will still matter; the debt is still there, now I not only paid
mine off, but I also have to put it into the government the more of my income to
pay for the debt forgiveness for som ...[text shortened]... me rules; if you don't
and this picking winners and losers takes place, nothing about this is fair.

So do you love your neighbor as you love yourself?

If you did, this would not be as big an issue for you as it obviously is.

@kingdavid403 said
I'm fairly certain that I'm older than you loser; and I could still kick your worthless arse. It's your comment that is a stupid lie loser. Head on back to your momma tit boy.
btw, thanks for paying for my student debt relief. LOL...

why do you want to make a fool of yourself posting like a snot nosed kid?

@mott-the-hoople said
why do you want to make a fool of yourself posting like a snot nosed kid?

You're the one that can't explain your own assertion; which makes no sense, and is not true. Why do you lie and whine like a snot-nosed little school girl? Oh yeah, just like your worthless false god trump' I get it now. He always has been a little bch along with all the males in his family, except maybe Barron; the most mature one of them all. lol... No wonder his mom keeps him away from the rest of them losers.
I would almost bet that little joe and Don JR are the same person. They both whine and cry the same.

@kellyjay said
Fair? I paid mine off. Do I get a check to recoup my time and effort for someone
else who gets to avoid paying off all of their debt? The money shelled out to give
the loan in the first place will still matter; the debt is still there, now I not only paid
mine off, but I also have to put it into the government the more of my income to
pay for the debt forgiveness for som ...[text shortened]... me rules; if you don't
and this picking winners and losers takes place, nothing about this is fair.

Some people went to jail for using marijuana… it’s legal now.
Times change. You win some, you lose some.

Just because you don’t benefit, doesn’t mean others shouldn’t.

@divegeester said
Totally agree.

Except when you say “all” education, do you include evening classes, vocational courses etc, or just primary, secondary and 1st degree higher? I.e. cut off before Masters etc.

Also is there and age limit? Would you exclude “mature” students with no 1st degree?

All education.
Why shouldn’t people start learning when they’re older. Not everyone has the right mindset when they’re in their 20’s.

And continual education makes the world a better place.
Just read this forum. A wee bit extra education would not go amiss.

@divegeester said
Sorry, not trolling you here, just read it again.

You are advocating for NO charges for water and heating supplies? No local tax for fire service etc?

Oh, certainly taxes. It all has to be funded.
And it can be done by local tax, income tax, business tax, trade tax, etc.

But the basis is the same: everyone puts in the pot and everyone benefits, albeit in various manners (if your house never burns down, you don’t need a fire brigade).

@kingdavid403 said
I somewhat agree with you here. However, taxes still have to cover these expenses. Which means we ALL end up paying for them.

Yes. Exactly.
We all pay for them, nobody is excluded from use.

@averagejoe1 said
A guy post. You said last year that the government should also provide free housing!!!! What a damn laugh. Having said that, how can you then utter the phrase 'working civilization '?? Why work if everything is free. You are joking........RIGHT?!??!?

Shav is telling us to prepare for less income. But Shav, what if I want more income? Had a new ChrisCaft speedboat in mind, and maybe a vacation to Iceland. No way huh....
Income control. hahahaha

Housing is a basic human right. How can a functional society tolerate families not having a home.

NOTHING IS FREE.
It’s free at the point of delivery. Everyone pays their fare share.
And you can still save up your pennies to buy your speedboat. You just don’t have to pay for healthcare when you’re sick or your kids college. That’s paid for, because everyone’s already paid into the pot.

Like the army. Like the police. Like politicians. It’s the same system, but expanded.

@kingdavid403 said
You're the one that can't explain your own assertion; which makes no sense, and is not true. Why do you lie and whine like a snot-nosed little school girl? Oh yeah, just like your worthless false god trump' I get it now. He always has been a little bch along with all the males in his family, except maybe Barron; the most mature one of them all. lol... No wonder his ...[text shortened]... I would almost bet that little joe and Don JR are the same person. They both whine and cry the same.

let me break the news to you, dont count your money just yet…this is an unconstitutional act, it will not hold up in court.
you are making a fool of yourself for nothing

@shavixmir said
Housing is a basic human right. How can a functional society tolerate families not having a home.

NOTHING IS FREE.
It’s free at the point of delivery. Everyone pays their fare share.
And you can still save up your pennies to buy your speedboat. You just don’t have to pay for healthcare when you’re sick or your kids college. That’s paid for, because everyone’s already p ...[text shortened]... to the pot.

Like the army. Like the police. Like politicians. It’s the same system, but expanded.

la la la…the delirium is thick.

@averagejoe1 said
But Shav said our income will be limited. So, no can do.

Your income is not limited.
Certain parts of your income are just pre-ordained.

Think of it like this, you wouldn’t need to worry about selling your house to pay for your kid’s cancer treatment.
Just like that.
You don’t need to worry about doctors bills, education costs, toll road (is that turnpike in American? ) costs, etc.
You paid your taxes and that’s all arranged.

@mott-the-hoople said
let me break the news to you, dont count your money just yet…this is an unconstitutional act, it will not hold up in court.
you are making a fool of yourself for nothing

Unconstitutional?
What about bailing the banks out when they crapped all over your economy? Wasn’t that then unconstitutional as well?

Seriously. Wake up. Get some bloody education before you carry on puffing stupid out your arse.

@mott-the-hoople said
la la la…the delirium is thick.

We don't care much that you're fat; however, that is off topic anyhoot.

@shavixmir said
Unconstitutional?
What about bailing the banks out when they crapped all over your economy? Wasn’t that then unconstitutional as well?

Seriously. Wake up. Get some bloody education before you carry on puffing stupid out your arse.

Seriously. Wake up. Get some bloody education before you carry on puffing stupid out your arse.
That seems impossible. 😏

@kingdavid403 said
I somewhat agree with you here. However, taxes still have to cover these expenses. Which means we ALL end up paying for them.

Genius. I never thought of that.