04 May 09
Originally posted by no1marauderYou're dancing around the question like a good lawyer. What IF there was a good, or better than average, chance that the Taliban could get the weapons. Afterall, CNN, ABC, NBC, CBS, heck, even FOX are all saying this is an URGENT consideration. Who knows how many pro-Taliban officers are in the Pakistani army; they could turn against their own government and practically hand the nuclear "keys" over to the Taliban. so....how does the world prevent this from happening?
The leaders of those countries are, thankfully, not insane enough to get further involved in the quixotic quest to make Muslims have governments which are ideologically acceptable to the Western power elite.
04 May 09
Originally posted by no1marauderEven the Islamo-terrorists admit world-wide sharia law.....look at Great Britian: http://mypetjawa.mu.nu/archives/106149.php
You don't seem to know anything about the Taliban and resort to the same type of irrational stereotyping so typical on this board.
Here's an article that explains some of the (many) differences between the Taliban and its goals (which revolve around Pashtun political supremacy in Afghanistan and certain areas of Pakistan) and Al Qaeda. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/mark-levine/obama-and-the-taliban_b_114900.html
This cleric wants to see the Islamic flag fly over every country in the world? I reckon he's the ONLY one with these ideas?
04 May 09
Originally posted by dystoniacNon sequitur. Is he a member of the Taliban?
Even the Islamo-terrorists admit world-wide sharia law.....look at Great Britian: http://mypetjawa.mu.nu/archives/106149.php
This cleric wants to see the Islamic flag fly over every country in the world? I reckon he's the ONLY one with these ideas?
04 May 09
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Originally posted by dystoniacIt can't. If the Pakistan government tomorrow wants to allow the Taliban to run their country, there's not a thing anybody can do about it.
You're dancing around the question like a good lawyer. What IF there was a good, or better than average, chance that the Taliban could get the weapons. Afterall, CNN, ABC, NBC, CBS, heck, even FOX are all saying this is an URGENT consideration. Who knows how many pro-Taliban officers are in the Pakistani army; they could turn against their own governmen ...[text shortened]... the nuclear "keys" over to the Taliban. so....how does the world prevent this from happening?
Even in the highly, highly unlikely event this would happen, I don't see why this is such a problem. After all, governments hostile to the US have had nuclear weapons in large numbers for 6 decades. They've never been used. So even hostile countries having nuclear weapons is not a compelling rationale for a bloody war.
Of course, before the occupation of Afghanistan, the Taliban was a minor annoyance at most to Pakistan's leaders. Therefore, a good way to reduce Taliban influence in Pakistan would be to negotiate an end to that occupation.
04 May 09
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Militant fundamentalism is sprung from fundamentalism.
Fundamentalism are sprung from religion.
There are fundamentalism in Islam as well as Judaism and Christianism. Some of these fundamentalism are willing to help their god on his plan to Apocalyps. Some of them are living in teocraties. Some of them are political leaders, even military leaders. Some might have control over nuclear devices.
Those countries having nukes are prepare to use them, why else have them? Talibans having nukes are also prepared to use them. One country in the world has used nukes already.
Religion is bad, religion is dangerous, religion is evil.
04 May 09
the real danger of a Taliban takeover of Pakistan and its possession of the Islamic Bomb should be obvious.
what do you suppose India would do, should it feel itself threatened by its traditional enemy?
And if India and Pakistan begin throwing nukes around, what then of Afghanistan and Iran? I think this is the potential flashpoint for the next and perhaps final world war.
04 May 09
Originally posted by no1marauderI meant only if the Taliban were about to get the nukes. Not now.
At present, the possibility of the Taliban gaining possession of Pakistan's nuclear arsenal is near zero.
The possibility that Pakistan would use their nuclear weapons in case of an all-out attack by a coalition of larger, militarily stronger nations is high. There is even the possibility that in that eventuality they would be willing to gi ...[text shortened]... remote possibility would greatly increase the chances of the feared eventuality occurring.
04 May 09
Originally posted by no1marauder"Of course, before the occupation of Afghanistan, the Taliban was a minor annoyance at most to Pakistan's leaders. Therefore, a good way to reduce Taliban influence in Pakistan would be to negotiate an end to that occupation."
It can't. If the Pakistan government tomorrow wants to allow the Taliban to run their country, there's not a thing anybody can do about it.
Even in the highly, highly unlikely event this would happen, I don't see why this is such a problem. After all, governments hostile to the US have had nuclear weapons in large numbers for 6 decades. T ...[text shortened]... ay to reduce Taliban influence in Pakistan would be to negotiate an end to that occupation.
Wake up No1Defrauder!
The taliban were terrorising all of Afghanistan; subjugating women horribly, forcing men to grow beards, stopping kite flying, blowing up Buddhist statues and even banning music and playing chess.
How would YOU like to have lived under that regime?
04 May 09
Originally posted by howardgeeWow...I agree with you...I'm leaving my room immediately in case the walls collapse....😲 😉
"Of course, before the occupation of Afghanistan, the Taliban was a minor annoyance at most to Pakistan's leaders. Therefore, a good way to reduce Taliban influence in Pakistan would be to negotiate an end to that occupation."
Wake up No1Defrauder!
The taliban were terrorising all of Afghanistan; subjugating women horribly, forcing men to grow beards, ...[text shortened]... nd even banning music and playing chess.
How would YOU like to have lived under that regime?
04 May 09
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Originally posted by dystoniacYes, in fact what should happen is that the Taliban should be hounded out of existence wherever they exist. The whole world should unite against the despicable group.
Wow...I agree with you...I'm leaving my room immediately in case the walls collapse....😲 😉
Of course No1Defrauder is too much of a bleeding heart liberal/politically correct apologist to agree to this.
04 May 09
Originally posted by dystoniacIf the bloody world hadn't instigated this never-ending bloody war on the people of Afghanistan, but instead had continued with dialogue, then this wouldn't be a problem at bloody all, would it?
What should the world do about the possibility of the Taliban gaining control of Pakistan's nukes?
The whole division of that area in "Afghanistan" and "Pakistan" has been a pathetic failure since the Mogol-era (and probably before). Various tribes and languages that aren't within fixed borders.
As for the Taliban gaining control over nukes? So what?
That is the future. Do you really think nuclear expansion isn't going to happen?
04 May 09
Originally posted by howardgeeInternationally speaking, the US is a far more despicable group, considering the faeces they've spread around the globe the last 60 years.
Yes, in fact what should happen is that the Taliban should be hounded out of existence wherever they exist. The whole world should unite against the despicable group
Maybe we should hound US citizens out of existence wherever they exist?
04 May 09
Originally posted by shavixmirOh come on, now Shav.
Internationally speaking, the US is a far more despicable group, considering the faeces they've spread around the globe the last 60 years.
Maybe we should hound US citizens out of existence wherever they exist?
I appreciate your sentiments, but what do you think the Taliban would have done had they had the power and influence of the Yanks for the last 60 years?
Do you think we would be openly discussing these matters on a Chess forum??????
04 May 09
Originally posted by howardgeeDo you think so many countries would have been invaded? So many coups plotted, so many coups financed and so many civilians murdered for financial gain?
Oh come on, now Shav.
I appreciate your sentiments, but what do you think the Taliban would have done had they had the power and influence of the Yanks for the last 60 years?
Do you think we would be openly discussing these matters on a Chess forum??????
A toss up, if you ask me.
As a wiser man than myself once said: "A plague on both your houses."
Considering the region, the people and the history, I think Afghanistan would have sorted itself out, without too much hassle to the rest of the world, if they were left alone to do it.
04 May 09
Originally posted by howardgeeHoward, you really need to learn how to read. My statement remains correct, no matter how hysterically you go off on a tangent.
"Of course, before the occupation of Afghanistan, the Taliban was a minor annoyance at most to Pakistan's leaders. Therefore, a good way to reduce Taliban influence in Pakistan would be to negotiate an end to that occupation."
Wake up No1Defrauder!
The taliban were terrorising all of Afghanistan; subjugating women horribly, forcing men to grow beards, ...[text shortened]... nd even banning music and playing chess.
How would YOU like to have lived under that regime?
It's up to the people of Afghanistan to decide whether they like a government like the Taliban or not. You and other Western busybodies have done enough harm to the Third World. How much more blood are you willing to spill to get the "savages" to agree to have a government that you prefer?