14 Jan 12
Originally posted by AThousandYoungWere the British subjects living in America who did not go along with the revolution subjected only to conventional military force? Or no kind of force at all, perhaps?
It's tough to terrorize civilians on the other side of the Atlantic.
Originally posted by no1marauderAnd the answer is... crickets chirping?
Hypothetical:
An Israeli scientist is working on a project which will increase the accuracy of "smart" bombs used by the Israeli military. Two Iranian agents plant a bomb in his car and he and his driver get blown to bits on the streets of Tel Aviv.
Terrorism?
Originally posted by no1marauderObviously, you know I'm going to say no. An act of war? Perhaps. Terrorism? Of course not. It is a targeted attempt to take out a person who is going to increase the military capabilities of an enemy. It is nothing like the wanton killing of random civilians that is the hallmark of terrorism.
Hypothetical:
An Israeli scientist is working on a project which will increase the accuracy of "smart" bombs used by the Israeli military. Two Iranian agents plant a bomb in his car and he and his driver get blown to bits on the streets of Tel Aviv.
Terrorism?
Originally posted by sh76Utter nonsense. Pray tell, who else is Israel at war with? Are there any scientists working for Islamic governments that Israel can't kill if it feels like it?
Iran has been at undeclared war with Israel through its Hezbollah proxy for years. That it is undeclared is a distinction without a difference.
Your pro-Israel bias is given, but it remains shocking that a lawyer doesn't know the difference between an actual war and one nation supporting an indigenous group defending its own national borders.
Originally posted by no1marauderIvory tower types like you have the luxury of giving a damn about legal niceties such as whether Iran actually declared war against Israel.
Utter nonsense. Pray tell, who else is Israel at war with? Are there any scientists working for Islamic governments that Israel can't kill if it feels like it?
Your pro-Israel bias is given, but it remains shocking that a lawyer doesn't know the difference between an actual war and one nation supporting an indigenous group defending its own national borders.
Unfortunately, in real life, Israel has to deal with the very real threat of an avowed enemy with certified nut jobs running it obtaining nuclear weapons.
The irrelevant analogy to other "Islamic governments" is hardly worth a response. But I will say that Israel is not at war with most "Islamic governments." If you want examples: Egypt, Jordan, Saudi Arabia, Iraq, Libya, Tunisia, etc.
Originally posted by sh76Iran's had to deal with that for 32 years.
Ivory tower types like you have the luxury of giving a damn about legal niceties such as whether Iran actually declared war against Israel.
Unfortunately, in real life, Israel has to deal with the very real threat of an avowed enemy with certified nut jobs running it obtaining nuclear weapons.
International law applies even to Israel though you insist it has some special status allowing it to kill whoever it pleases whenever it pleases on the basis of its own paranoid delusions.
To your edit: all those countries support organizations that could be considered at "war" with Israel given your extremely expansive view of that term as it concerns the Zionist entity.
Originally posted by sh76You should immediately inform the US government so it can rewrite its terrorism statutes to conform to your esoteric beliefs (at least where the actions of the Israeli government are concerned).
Obviously, you know I'm going to say no. An act of war? Perhaps. Terrorism? Of course not. It is a targeted attempt to take out a person who is going to increase the military capabilities of an enemy. It is nothing like the wanton killing of random civilians that is the hallmark of terrorism.
Originally posted by sh76Perhaps you should look up the definition of "war" as well as "terrorism". Hezbollah and Israel are not presently engaged in hostilities and haven't been for quite some time. This makes the claim that killing people of a second order "enemy" is justified even more dubious.
Iran has been at undeclared war with Israel through its Hezbollah proxy for years. That it is undeclared is a distinction without a difference.
Originally posted by sh76Where is the evidence that Iran's nuclear physicists are trying to increase the military capabilities of their government? Just because you don't believe Iran is only trying to pursue a nuclear energy program and do believe they are pursuing a weapons program does not make it so.
Obviously, you know I'm going to say no. An act of war? Perhaps. Terrorism? Of course not. It is a targeted attempt to take out a person who is going to increase the military capabilities of an enemy. It is nothing like the wanton killing of random civilians that is the hallmark of terrorism.
You have no evidence. All you have are your baseless suspicions. That is not enough.