1. The universe consists of a finite number of objects, at whatever scale is deemed minimal for observation (ie even if you consider an observable event to be an interaction between elementary particles, you still have at a given time only a finite number of elementary articles).
2. To each instant in time corresponds exactly one positive real number, with 0 being the first instant under consideration.
3. At any given time t>0, there occur, by 1, a finite number of events.
4. Thus the total set of all events can be put in 1-1 correspondence with the real numbers.
5. An event at time t1 is caused by an event at time t2 iff t2 < t1 and removal of the event at t2 would mean that the event at t1 won't happen.
6. If event E2 at time t2 causes E1 at t1, then E2 causes some event E3 at t3 for all t3 such that t2<t3<t1.
7. A sequence of causally linked events connecting E2 to E1 is a ''chain of causation''. If N(t) is the number of events at t, then the set of potential chains of causation between the events at t2 and those at t1 is of equal cardinality to the set of curves which are contained in a rectangle of length t1-t2 and height H = max(t in [t2,t1]){N(t)} such that each curve is a function mapping [t2,t1] to [0,H].
8. The set of such curves is of greater cardinality than the reals and of cardinality less than or equal to card P(R).
9. Since the question of deciding how many possible chains of causation there are is equivalent to the Continuum Hypothesis, but since the physical word is empirically observable and consists of chains of causation, there must be a way to decide how many Cs of C there are without thinking as we've been doing. Thus something exists above human reasoning. Thus God or its equivalent exists.
I count 9 points 😛.
Originally posted by royalchickenAh but God works in a mysterous & cruel way. Is it not true that most of those high school students will be destined to work in a factory or an office of some sort, from 9 to 5 for most of their working life? Now tell me which is worst ? A short sharp death from god's anger or a slow painful death, where you a gradually worn down by endless boredom of doing the same thing, day in, day out for forty years. Whilst knowing that you are making some fat cat rich, while you scratch out a basic living on the meagre crust that you are paid for your 37.5 hours a week. And then every evening when you get home you have to spend 60 years living with the same naggy, moaning, old woman all because god had tricked you into promising "till death do us part". And then what little spare money you have goes to supplying your pesty kids with shoes, cloths and Mcdonalds. And because you have no money you are forced to watch endless dire repeats on BBC 1 for the rest of your life. No gods vengence today is far worst than a simple striking down of yesteryear.
The ''brothers'' of God are monks. God has said that he will ''strike down with Great Vangeance and Furious Anger on those who attempt to poison and destroy my brothers''. Rumor has it that among high school students in my town, the local St. Anthony's Monastery grounds are *the* place to smoke cannabis. Passive smoke is poisonous and destru ...[text shortened]... quency has apparently gone on for many years. Thus it's quite likely that God does not exist.
Originally posted by royalchickenAh, but if Occams Razor was a concept introduced through the work of "God" to test our faith, then logic decrees that "God" does not exist, but was merely a fabrication of God in order to test whether our faith lay with "God" or God. Therefore I believe that we can categorically state that whilst "God" does not exist, it is clear that God does.
In any language, ''God doesn't exist'' is more complicated than ''God exists''. By Occam's Razor, God must exist.
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Mark
Originally posted by mmanuelOther way 'round.
Ah, but if Occams Razor was a concept introduced through the work of "God" to test our faith, then logic decrees that "God" does not exist, but was merely a fabrication of God in order to test whether our faith lay with "God" or God. Therefore I believe that we can categorically state that whilst "God" does not exist, it is clear that God does.
Mark
Further proof that god exists can be done through the science of maths.
Let me ask you a question, What are the chances that there is life on another planet? Well there should be an extremely good chance as there are trillions and trillions and trillions and trillions of stars with planets in the universe. Some of which will be capable of sustaining life. Now if we take that a step further, Since we know that there are millions and millions and millions and millions forms of alien life floating around out there in the universe, there will also be a good chance that one of these creatures will possess the powers and abilities that we associate with "god". Therefore we can say that it is a statistical certainty that god exist.
Originally posted by royalchickenThe mere fact that you are perplexed by the concepts that God and "God" have introduced into the world suggests that you are of insufficient intellect to fully comprehend the entity that is God/"God". However, you have managed to get into one of the highest seats of human learning, suggesting that maybe the God/"God" concept is of an unworldly origin, furthering my argument that God exists, but "God" does not.....
Other way 'round.
....or something to that effect
Mark
Originally posted by mmanuelActually, no, God and ''God'' both just asked the seat of human learning if an utter nitwit would be admitted, and fearing wrath and ''wrath'' the seatmongers relented.
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....or something to that effect
Mark
In homage and ''homage'' the nitiwit put the seat's logo in his avatar box.
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Originally posted by Jay PeateaShouldn't that be ''goddoesnotexist.com''?
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Originally posted by royalchickenAhem 😳.......... well I suppose so ........ but it should be obvious to anybody of intelligence that god put that there to test our faith. (Hmm intelligence & RC let me see....)
Shouldn't that be ''goddoesnotexist.com''?
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Anyway getting back on track......... This is similiar in fashion to the "dinosaur bones theory" that modern scientists have invented. What a load of old poppycock, they should read some Tolken. Dinosaurs, big fat lizards running around eating everything in sight rubbish! they are so obviously dragons. Piltdown man a hoax?, my glutimus maximus, haven't they heard of dwarfs. It is all one big aethist conspiracy theory to stop the common man knowing about the true origins of man. Tolken believed in gods, where else would gandalf get his powers from?