The dark side of the abortion battle

@mchill said
Mchill ignores the reality that many women or girls with unwanted pregnancies
do NOT want to spend nine months carrying a fetus -


100% incorrect Duchess. Once again, your attempts at reading a person's mind have failed. I did not ignore this reality. Matching funds to support these young women during the term of their pregnancy can be had both from the would be parents, ...[text shortened]... ful) attempts to read minds. so you cannot make a statement like this based on any factual evidence.

I think in perfect world what your proposing would be an alternative that would suit a number of women, and of course if there is an alternative that suits the individual woman why wouldn’t she.
However we are not in perfect world there are many costs associated with having a child, just as there are with terminating a foetus, financial, emotional and health costs to name but three, these are so varied that for anyone to figure out the relative costs of either option for any given individual would be virtually impossible to calculate, (but I’m no expert on algorithms).
My concern with this option if it is pushed, in even a quasi governmental manner, I could imagine it becoming the ‘more moral, but we would not want to judge’ option, I think women would feel pressured to choose this option even though their own personal algorithm had led them toward the other option.
But if there are any women and adoptees who this would and probably has worked for then yes, why wouldn’t you.

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I find it hard to believe given even a scant perusal of mchill’s posts on this subject that mchill doesn’t support an individual woman’s right to make an individual choice on this matter.
But choices are very fragile things, they can very easily be subverted by environmental factors such as socially preferred options / choices.

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The same motivation is behind the RCC banning contraception.

@sonhouse said
Not me. And I applaud the state of Colorado in their effort to make IUD's available for free which reduces abortion rates by over half. It should be national.

Damn right.

Contraceptives should be made available to every single woman of childbearing age in this country.

If the "pro-life" community is actually pro-life, instead of politically "pro-life", they would support this. That they do not shows their hypocrisy.

@kevcvs57 said
I find it hard to believe given even a scant perusal of mchill’s posts on this subject that mchill doesn’t support an individual woman’s right to make an individual choice on this matter.
But choices are very fragile things, they can very easily be subverted by environmental factors such as socially preferred options / choices.

This could be true, but to promote adoption as an "answer" to the abortion issue is to show his disconnect.

In my opinion.

We need to be able to prevent the pregnancies in the first place.

Women will never be truly free until this is public policy.

@suzianne said
Damn right.

Contraceptives should be made available to every single woman of childbearing age in this country.

If the "pro-life" community is actually pro-life, instead of politically "pro-life", they would support this. That they do not shows their hypocrisy.

The anti-abortionists are driven by religious morality.
Not by a desire for a scientific concensus of what constitutes life.

@mghrn55 said
The anti-abortionists are driven by religious morality.
Not by a desire for a scientific concensus of what constitutes life.

I'm not even so sure that it is "religious morality". If it were, they would support ALL life.

@suzianne said
Damn right.

Contraceptives should be made available to every single woman of childbearing age in this country.

If the "pro-life" community is actually pro-life, instead of politically "pro-life", they would support this. That they do not shows their hypocrisy.

the women I know dont have any unwanted pregnancies...what is it you think you are doing wrong?

@suzianne said
This could be true, but to promote adoption as an "answer" to the abortion issue is to show his disconnect.

In my opinion.

We need to be able to prevent the pregnancies in the first place.

Women will never be truly free until this is public policy.

😂😂😂...oh my

Do you have a clue about what it takes for a woman to become pregnant? And no, it is not others place to pay for her sex!

@mott-the-hoople said
the women I know dont have any unwanted pregnancies...

Why do you think that is?

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I didn’t sound impressed though, did I do not wish to decide which choices should not be open to women.
I pointed out my concern regarding such a choice, if strongly promulgated as the better option being an extra pressure on women whilst they trying to make the best choice for them.
As for offering women money to bring a foetus to term for someone else I’m pretty sure that our capitalist system already caters for them. I’m pro choice, which should by definition include choices that I may not personally think are optimum.

@suzianne said
This could be true, but to promote adoption as an "answer" to the abortion issue is to show his disconnect.

In my opinion.

We need to be able to prevent the pregnancies in the first place.

Women will never be truly free until this is public policy.

Yes but are you saying it cannot be an answer if it suits the individual woman, no it cannot be the answer but then no single strategy could or should be. Obviously contraception as a way of avoiding pregnancy in the first place is the optimum strategy for the vast majority of women but stuff definitely happens.