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shavixmir
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https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c623zkwd04qo

Dozens of Israeli settlers have set fire to houses and cars in a village in the occupied West Bank, with the Palestinian health ministry saying at least one person has been killed.

The settlers - some of them wearing masks - threw rocks and Molotov cocktails as they attacked the village of Jit, near the town of Nablus, on Thursday evening, the Israel Defense Forces (IDF) said.

According to OCHA - the UN office for Humanitarian Affairs - there have been more than 1,000 attacks by settlers against Palestinians since October, with at least 1,390 people - including 660 children - displaced.

Lethal violence has frequently accompanied the attacks. OCHA recorded 107 that led to Palestinian fatalities and injuries, 859 causing damage to Palestinian property.

And Israel does very little to stop them. Indeed, they actively support the settlement program, which is illegal under international law.

How much abuse and terror can a community take, before it cracks and turns extremist?

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@shavixmir said
How much abuse and terror can a community take, before it cracks and turns extremist?
At this point this is what those settlers want. Any retaliation will be seen as "extremist". The provocation doesn't matter.

I've tried to be fair to both sides, so I don't say this lightly; Israel wants all Palestinians in the land exterminated. They want genocide.

This is a point of no return. Israel wants to take all of Gaza and the West Bank. I think it's going to happen. Iran and the other Arab nations may attack but won't deter Israel with the U.S. behind it.

To be honest, this may be the only way this 80 year conflict can end. A peace treaty is not possible now.

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Best they don't try to defend themselves. Terrorism won't be tolerated by the isrealies .

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@happy-chappy said
Best they don't try to defend themselves. Terrorism won't be tolerated by the isrealies .
Maybe youall forgot that there is a war going on, between Jews and Arabs. This war got started by Hamas attacking Jews, raping and killing about 1400 and kidnapping hundreds. To this day Hamas holds hostages and is quite likely judging from their past behaviour raping and torturing them daily. There is likely hostilities going on all over Israel between Jews and Arabs, because of this war.

Before you say this has nothing to do with West Bank Arabs, these people were dancing in the streets on Oct 7th when they heard of the attack and killing of Jews. Hamas has overwhelming support among West Bank Palestinians.

If you want to make rules for war, let Hamas follow the rules as well.

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@Rajk999
"This war got started by Hamas attacking Jews, raping and killing about 1400 and kidnapping hundreds."

I told you before the Zionists started the war with the NAKBA and it never ended since. Protesters, politicians and TV commentators in Israel are defending the right of soldiers to mistreat and even rape Palestinian prisoners in detention.

https://www.aljazeera.com/program/newsfeed/2024/8/13/israeli-protesters-rally-for-the-right-to-rape-prisoners

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@Metal-Brain said
@Rajk999
"This war got started by Hamas attacking Jews, raping and killing about 1400 and kidnapping hundreds."

I told you before the Zionists started the war with the NAKBA and it never ended since. Protesters, politicians and TV commentators in Israel are defending the right of soldiers to mistreat and even rape Palestinian prisoners in detention.

https://www.aljazeera.com/program/newsfeed/2024/8/13/israeli-protesters-rally-for-the-right-to-rape-prisoners
You can repeat that lie a 1,000 times, it will remain a lie. The war was started by the Arabs. Read your history.

The Jews accepted the UN Partition Plan, and therefore had no reason to start any war. They were busy establishing their newly formed independent state of Israel.

The Arabs did not accept the UN proposals and got their neighbouring Arab friends to join in to attack the Jews.

Thats how the war started. The Nakba is the ensuing mess in which the Arabs found themselves. Because of their greed and stupidity they lost the war, which they started and they ran. They were not allowed to return. Tough.

Palestinians created their own mess. Nobody is coming to bail them out.

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@Rajk999 said
You can repeat that lie a 1,000 times, it will remain a lie. The war was started by the Arabs. Read your history.

The Jews accepted the UN Partition Plan, and therefore had no reason to start any war. They were busy establishing their newly formed independent state of Israel.

The Arabs did not accept the UN proposals and got their neighbouring Arab friends to join in ...[text shortened]... llowed to return. Tough.

Palestinians created their own mess. Nobody is coming to bail them out.
You left out the part where the Zionists stole Palestinian land and put them in a concentration camp. That is what started the war and it has never ended. There is no peace treaty.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plan_Dalet

Stop trying to rewrite history.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nakba

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@Metal-Brain said
You left out the part where the Zionists stole Palestinian land and put them in a concentration camp. That is what started the war and it has never ended. There is no peace treaty.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plan_Dalet

Stop trying to rewrite history.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nakba
Its a matter of timing ie what happened, when it happened and why. You are muddling up the sequences so that your understanding is poor.

Nov 1947 :
- UN Partition Plan approved.
- Jews Accepted, Arabs refused.

Between Nov 1947 and May 1948 :
- Civil war continued between Jews and Arabs
- Jews began preparing to set up their new State of Israel
- Arabs recruiting neighbouring Arab states to fight Israel
- Jews responded with Plan Dalet to block off warring Arabs from certain districts

May 1948 and after:
- Arabs and their friends attacked Israel
- They failed and they fled
- They were barred from reentry.

The cause and effect in your head is muddled. The cause of the Nakba and Plan Dalet, was the refusal to accept the UN Partition Plan, and their preparation for war.

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@Rajk999 said

Nov 1947 :
- UN Partition Plan approved.
But was never legally binding.

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@Rajk999 said
Its a matter of timing ie what happened, when it happened and why. You are muddling up the sequences so that your understanding is poor.

Nov 1947 :
- UN Partition Plan approved.
- Jews Accepted, Arabs refused.

Between Nov 1947 and May 1948 :
- Civil war continued between Jews and Arabs
- Jews began preparing to set up their new State of Israel
- Arabs recruiti ...[text shortened]... akba and Plan Dalet, was the refusal to accept the UN Partition Plan, and their preparation for war.
You are defending the actions of an empire betraying the Palestinians.
Jews had no right to steal land in Palestine just because the British empire said it was okay. If Jews bought the land instead of stealing it the war never would have happened. The Zionists started the war.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sykes%E2%80%93Picot_Agreement

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@vivify said
But was never legally binding.
Who cares. No UN resolutions are legally binding. What they are represent what a group of independent nations believe to be the right thing to do. The Jews did the right thing. The Arabs as usual are on the side of wrong. They are stupid and they started a war with an enemy which they can never defeat. Even after 75 years they still cannot see that.

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@Rajk999 said
Who cares. No UN resolutions are legally binding. What they are represent what a group of independent nations believe to be the right thing to do. The Jews did the right thing. The Arabs as usual are on the side of wrong. They are stupid and they started a war with an enemy which they can never defeat. Even after 75 years they still cannot see that.
If Jews bought the land instead of stealing it the war never would have happened. The Zionists started the war.

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@Metal-Brain said
You are defending the actions of an empire betraying the Palestinians.
Jews had no right to steal land in Palestine just because the British empire said it was okay. If Jews bought the land instead of stealing it the war never would have happened. The Zionists started the war.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sykes%E2%80%93Picot_Agreement
The land belonged to the British Empire. Between 1890 and 1948, the Jews bought land from the Ottoman Empire, the British Empire, and from Arabs, and from others living there. They Jews are a wealthy group. They bought land.

The British, who owned the territory, divided the area, which they have every right to do.

The Arabs are the stupid fools, who started the war.

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@Rajk999 said
Who cares. No UN resolutions are legally binding.
Wrong. U.N. Security Council resolutions are considered legally binding. The Security Council never voted on the Partition Plan.

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@vivify said
Wrong. U.N. Security Council resolutions are considered legally binding. The Security Council never voted on the Partition Plan.
Again who the hell cares. The UN does not run anyones country. These are suggestions. The Jews accepted and the Arabs did not. There was not need for the Jews to start any war. Palestinians can GFO.

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