25 Jan 08
Originally posted by shavixmirfyi- the media in the US routinely portrays Chavez as a dictator. He is usually described as a "Socialist Dictator". Even educated Americans mostly believe that Venezuela is under a dictatorship, because that's what our media echo chamber echos.
It's like you live on a completely different world to the rest of us.
25 Jan 08
Originally posted by Darth SpongeWhy don't you ask all the Venezuelans living abroad what they think of Chavez?. "Dictator" is the charitable appellation they use in public; what they say privately can not be printed here. My brother-in-law had his property confiscated and was not remunerated by Chavez. He owned several buildings in Caracas and the dictator just took them. You can imagine that anyone who is productive, clever or hardworking is trying to spirit out as much of their wealth from the Venezuela as fast as they can. Currently, there's a huge influx of Venezuelans to Miami that is driving up the cost of housing there. Venezuelans are wonderful people, Chavez though, is another story.
fyi- the media in the US routinely portrays Chavez as a dictator. He is usually described as a "Socialist Dictator". Even educated Americans mostly believe that Venezuela is under a dictatorship, because that's what our media echo chamber echos.
25 Jan 08
Originally posted by der schwarze RitterChavez is a socialist, elected democratically. I think you disagree with his socialism, and then attribute "dictatorship" to him. It's a complicated situation that the US media does little to elucidate. Chavez is trying to empower people who have nothing, at the expense of those who have much. You may disagree with that aim, but the fact is that he is still a democratically elected official, so at least some venezuelans must like him.
Why don't you ask all the Venezuelans living abroad what they think of Chavez?. "Dictator" is the charitable appellation they use in public; what they say privately can not be printed here. My brother-in-law had his property confiscated and was not remunerated by Chavez. He owned several buildings in Caracas and the dictator just took them. You c ...[text shortened]... he cost of housing there. Venezuelans are wonderful people, Chavez though, is another story.
25 Jan 08
Originally posted by Darth Spongewhere would Socialists get their money if those who had much stopped having much?
Chavez is a socialist, elected democratically. I think you disagree with his socialism, and then attribute "dictatorship" to him. It's a complicated situation that the US media does little to elucidate. Chavez is trying to empower people who have nothing, at the expense of those who have much. You may disagree with that aim, but the fact is that he is still a democratically elected official, so at least some venezuelans must like him.
F. GRANNY.
25 Jan 08
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Originally posted by Darth SpongeThat is exactly the same noble claim behind Saloth Sar's 3 1/2 year reign in Cambodia.
Chavez is trying to empower people who have nothing, at the expense of those who have much.
It is not the noble "end" that's important, it is the "means" one uses to achieve it everyone should examine. Equality cannot be achieved by force, it only results in death.
25 Jan 08
Originally posted by der schwarze RitterThe Republican playbook is rather ... repetitive, isn't it?
Dictator Hugo Chavez has been accused of stealing hundreds of tons of food from a private company. Just another day in the life of a man running his once-prosperous country into the ground.
The director of Alimentos Polar, the nation's biggest food distributor and one of the largest private employers in Venezuela, has told reporters that troop ...[text shortened]... ore than 500 tons of food:
http://www.ibdeditorials.com/IBDArticles.aspx?id=286070344119701
Let's see:
Wake up
Blame something on Clinton
Demonise Chavez
Back anything Bush does
Complain about taxes
Crank up the Iranian threat
Praise economy
Cheerlead anything military
Dissemble or just lie if team is caught out lying / breaking law
Go to sleep
The thing is, is that you seem incapable - no matter what the evidence to the contrary - of doing anything other than what you've been conditioned to or lead to believe that's what a Conservative should do/say ... it's like Pavlov meets A Clockwork Orange.