Originally posted by MelanerpesI would add that kids often copy their peers as well so even if they do not get a pro-Obama bend from their parents they may still pick it up from other school children (some of whom are undoubtedly mimicking their parents). So in response to whodey's question, it is possible that a school's administrators or teachers have little to do with the kids' opinions of the President.
Was this church populated by people who would be mainly Obama supporters? Or was it in a "blue" part of the country (such as in the middle of a large city or somewhere near the coasts?).
Young children's political "views" are probably copied from their parents. Young children like to imitate their parents, so whatever their parents say or believe, the ...[text shortened]... to say in public - except that the children hear this stuff and then DO say it in public.
Reading the sad decline from the initial quality of this thread, it parallels the decline of the US as a whole over the years.
I am reminded of the famous quote given by Gandalf in The Lord of Rings when he is asked why the guards still guard the White Tree in the Kingdom of Gondor. He explains the decline of Gondor which i think matches the situation in the US these days.....
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Gandalf: They guard it because they have hope. A faint and fading hope that one day it will flower. That a king will come and this city will be as it once was before it fell into decay. The old wisdom born out of the west was forsaken. Kings made tombs more splendid than the houses of the living and counted the old names of their descent dearer than the names of their sons. Childless lords sat in aged halls musing on heraldry or in high, cold towers asking questions of the stars. And so the people of Gondor fell into ruin. The line of Kings failed. The white tree withered. The rule of Gondor was given over to lesser men.
Originally posted by uzlessDo consider -- on Sep 12, at least 100,000 angry people came to Washington to voice their disapproval of the policy favored by the president and party in power. And there was no one named Neda being slaughtered by militia thugs for daring to protest.
Reading the sad decline from the initial quality of this thread, it parallels the decline of the US as a whole over the years.
I am reminded of the famous quote given by Gandalf in The Lord of Rings when he is asked why the guards still guard the White Tree in the Kingdom of Gondor. He explains the decline of Gondor which i think matches the situation i ...[text shortened]... line of Kings failed. The white tree withered. The rule of Gondor was given over to lesser men.
While the process of debate may sometimes be a most ugly thing to behold, the mere fact that we can all have these debates is perhaps the biggest thing that makes America (and other nations that offer these freedoms) great.
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,548062,00.html
Obama Wasn't the Only President to Spark Outrage Over Speech to Kids
Tuesday, September 08, 2009
By Bret Baier
Now some fresh pickings from the Political Grapevine:
History Lesson
President Obama's speech to school children Tuesday has received a lot of attention. As we've reported President George H.W. Bush delivered a similar speech to students back in 1991. But the Washington Examiner reports the complaints leading up to Obama's speech were relatively muted compared to the outrage 18 years ago.
Back then, some Democrats not only denounced Bush's speech, but even launched congressional hearings into the matter and asked the Government Accountability Office to investigate federal funds used for the speech. The GAO eventually said the administration did nothing wrong.
But at the time -- October 10, 1991 -- the National Education Association said it could not "endorse a president who spends $26,000 dollars of taxpayers' money on a staged media event... while cutting school lunch funds for our neediest youngsters."
But, ahead of President Obama's speech -- September 6, 2009 -- the NEA wrote: "We applaud President Obama for delivering this message to students."
We don't know how much today's event cost taxpayers.
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Originally posted by zeeblebotIf true, that really is an outrageous double standard.
Back then, some Democrats not only denounced Bush's speech, but even launched congressional hearings into the matter and asked the Government Accountability Office to investigate federal funds used for the speech. The GAO eventually said the administration did nothing wrong.
But at the time -- October 10, 1991 -- the National Education Association said ...[text shortened]... 9 -- the NEA wrote: "We applaud President Obama for delivering this message to students."
Not that I'd expect a pork grubbing special interest group to be neutral or anything, but I'll give them points for sheer gall.
Originally posted by zeeblebotSo basically both sides are hyocrits in some areas. Right?
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,548062,00.html
Obama Wasn't the Only President to Spark Outrage Over Speech to Kids
Tuesday, September 08, 2009
By Bret Baier
Now some fresh pickings from the Political Grapevine:
History Lesson
President Obama's speech to school children Tuesday has received a lot of attention. As we've reported Presiden ...[text shortened]... essage to students."
We don't know how much today's event cost taxpayers.
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Originally posted by zeeblebotno, but thats totally different because bush was a republican.
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,548062,00.html
Obama Wasn't the Only President to Spark Outrage Over Speech to Kids
Tuesday, September 08, 2009
By Bret Baier
Now some fresh pickings from the Political Grapevine:
History Lesson
President Obama's speech to school children Tuesday has received a lot of attention. As we've reported Presiden ...[text shortened]... essage to students."
We don't know how much today's event cost taxpayers.
...
let me make this clearer for you:
republican= bad
democrat= good
get it?