@glumchess saidWell, I f'd up on that one stat. You got one. Totally erases your other multiple false statements on this thread.
3 weeks.
Not 3 days.
Typical lying liberal.
For what it's worth:
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Tucker Carlson's views from the same date as Stewarts: 640,000, half as many as Stewart got. Tucker has a larger cable news presence but is utterly dwarfed online, where he's more popular with young people.
@glumchess saidYawn.
His Apple+ show is a flop. A disaster.
40 thousand viewers is a failure.
People aren't watching because everyone is tired of the anti white routine.
You can twist what I said however you want too. 🙄 You're still a toad.
No one watches Apple +. I've never even heard of it until now.
Stewart succeeds on sites that matter, like YouTube.
And you're still a banned racist under a new name.
20 Apr 22
Is it important if Stewart has loads of viewers or not?
This discussion is about the points he’s making.
The problem, as you can plainly see on this forum, is that accusing people of being racist evokes resistance. So, the basic message of inequality and poverty (which are the actual underlying issues) doesn’t reach the receiver.
Another part of the problem is that Americans are indoctrinated from a young age with patriotism and individualism. Ironically the two are contradictory. But the message is sold as: “What can you do for your country?”
This creates a setting of putting the individual before the group. And the nation before other people than one’s self.
In other words: systems must serve the country or one’s self. Not everyone in the country.
Obviously “the country” is actually rich business people making money, but that’s a side issue.
Normally, the question Stewart should pose is: “There are groups of people in the US who can’t get out of the poverty trap (which is always systematic for whatever reason) . How are we going to help them?
But in the US, the solution is gravely undermined by the answer: “America is the home of the free. Everyone can make it here. I did. They just have to find their inner motivation, and stop blaming everyone else.”
And this, in a nutshell, is what’s causing the feelings of racism and the backlash of indignation.
And although Stewart is attempting to raise awareness, his methods only preach to the choir. They won’t reach the people who actually need their awareness raised.
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@vivify saidI guess you don't know much about African history, the whole continent has been a series of barbaric internal wars between its people since forever, not to mention making slaves of each other and selling them to the rest of the world as their major cash crop..
Who started more world wars, whites or blacks? Who is responsible for more Holocausts, whites or blacks? Who enslaved more nations, whites or blacks?
@jj-adams saidSo if the white people were so much better, why didn't they draw a line in the sand and say 'hey this selling people as property thing, that's dehumanizing, no, we won't be a party to that...' Does that tell you anything?
I guess you don't know much about African history, the whole continent has been a series of barbaric internal wars between its people since forever, not to mention making slaves of each other and selling them to the rest of the world as their major cash crop..
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@kmax87 saidGee I guess you didn't hear.
So if the white people were so much better, why didn't they draw a line in the sand and say 'hey this selling people as property thing, that's dehumanizing, no, we won't be a party to that...' Does that tell you anything?
THEY DID.
Meanwhile slavery continued in Africa for another century as tribes attacked each other and enslaved the survivors. Usually, they just slaughtered each other so they could take their stuff.
What contributions to the world has Africa made, compared to Europe/Asia?
@shavixmir saidI agree.
Is it important if Stewart has loads of viewers or not?
This discussion is about the points he’s making.
The whole point of bringing up Stewart's numbers was to attempt to diminish the message; that the message must not matter if he can't garner higher ratings. It's a cheap ploy that I shouldn't have even given time to.
The rest of your post makes sense; I would add that the issue isn't the inability to rise out of poverty; that sanitizes the problem when there's a deliberate cause and deliberate actions made against specific groups that keep people in poverty. The hate against minorities that often comes from whites must be explicitly stated but that is the actual problem.
You are correct that using the term "racist" as a weapon is not productive. There's no discussion in that.
Stewart, as you saw, laid the the problem whites have as a group with acknowledging their roles in the systemic injustice in as inoffensive a way as possible. Despite that, one of the first posts on this thread made in dissent is from someone who used a racial slur against blacks not a long ago, who obfuscated the issue by falsely implying Stewart is saying whites are evil and blacks are angelic.
So...what do we do when the people who should be hearing Stewart's message, rather than just the choir, hear it and still won't understand what's being said? What is to be done when the people who need to hear it simply continue to blame blacks for systemic issues that were in fact caused by racism?
Instead of discussing Stewart's points, we get the same old deflection of pointing to problems in Africa and blaming blacks (ignoring the brutal history of colonization).
At the very least, I try to include some valid points for such people to consider. Will JJ Adams (the guy who used that racial slur) look up the history of countries like Haiti who were impoverished due to the efforts of white nations like France and the U.S.? Probably not. But it's all I or anyone can do.
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@kmax87 saidTo be fair, I don't think he's saying 'white man good, black woman baaaad'. (Not this time, anyway.) What he's pointing out is that Stewart's, and many commenters', seeming claim that straight white men are the only cause of all the world's problems is just as racist, sexist, and generally problematic and counter-productive.
So if the white people were so much better, why didn't they draw a line in the sand and say 'hey this selling people as property thing, that's dehumanizing, no, we won't be a party to that...' Does that tell you anything?
Which it is. Be honest: a great part of the reason white men have caused so much trouble is that they were in a position to. When you give black people and women power, you get Idi Amin and Maggie Thatcher, as well. White men are not innately worse than black women, and to pretend they are is no better than to claim the reverse.
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@jj-adams saidAfrican-Americans, you dolt.
I guess you don't know much about African history, the whole continent has been a series of barbaric internal wars between its people since forever, not to mention making slaves of each other and selling them to the rest of the world as their major cash crop..
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@vivify saidAnd it was good while it lasted.
I agree.
The whole point of bringing up Stewart's numbers was to attempt to diminish the message; that the message must not matter if he can't garner higher ratings. It's a cheap ploy that I shouldn't have even given time to.
The rest of your post makes sense; I would add that the issue isn't the inability to rise out of poverty; that sanitizes the problem when ther ...[text shortened]... efforts of white nations like France and the U.S.? Probably not. But it's all I or anyone can do.
Stewart is absolutely right.
They know it, we know it, everybody knows it.
But nothing changes.
@shavixmir saidBecause we have people like Donald Trump, squealing to HIS choir. Who then perform the same old, same old, resistance movement moment.
Is it important if Stewart has loads of viewers or not?
This discussion is about the points he’s making.
The problem, as you can plainly see on this forum, is that accusing people of being racist evokes resistance. So, the basic message of inequality and poverty (which are the actual underlying issues) doesn’t reach the receiver.
Another part of the problem is that A ...[text shortened]... hods only preach to the choir. They won’t reach the people who actually need their awareness raised.
This is what the lowest common denominator looks like.