@no1marauder saidRealistically? You can’t wage a war without supplies, support and logistics.
That's like saying the Vietnamese would have never forced out the Americans but/for Soviet and Chinese aid.
It trivializes the heroic resistance of these people and makes every outcome the result of the efforts of a few large nations' geopolitical maneuvering.
I'm not buying it.
Just because the French and Dutch resistence in WW2 were supplied and supported by the allied forces, doesn’t make their resistence any less heroic.
@moonbus said -
The Afghan campaign has been an unmitigated failure.
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Why, moonman, how can you say that? The US has accomplished what they wanted, to get Osama bin Laden.
/sarc
@eladar saidReagan was good. Not to everyone's ideological preference.
This whole thing just goes to show why Reagan was a good President while the Bush family made terrible Presidents.
But I wonder what would have happened if the nutbars had flown airliners into the WTC when Reagan was President.
@moonbus saidYes, Moonman... and to be a bit more concise, the CIA gave to the Mujahadeen led by bin Laden,
Reagan was the idiot who commissioned the Saudis to raise a mercenary army to drive the Soviets out of Afghanistan with CIA intelligence and US funding. Those mercenaries, the Mujahadeen, morphed into the Taliban, whom America has been fighting these last 20 years. Wake up and smell the coffee.
a database of names to fortify their group. The name al Qaeda means "the base", or the database
from which the group was formed. Good job America! more tax dollars gone to kill people all around the globe.
@shavixmir saidWell, it led to al Qaeda, but close enough.
The CIA supplied the money and connections to weapons which enabled the Mujahadeen to shoot down Soviet choppers.
And the money and supplies enabled the Mujahadeen to carry on fighting, draining the Soviet’s bank account.
Bit of a pity it led to the Taliban…
The CIA gave state of the art shoulder fired missiles that were used to shoot Soviet helicopters down.
The helos were the Soviets' main offensive weapon and without them, they withdrew.
@mghrn55 saidMore than likely a change in protecting pilots from the cabin as well as increased security concerning Muslims.
Reagan was good. Not to everyone's ideological preference.
But I wonder what would have happened if the nutbars had flown airliners into the WTC when Reagan was President.