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Is not to double down.
His base are slavering for violence but his conviction will have lost him votes in the moderate Republican pool. He needs to win more red moderates if he wants to win in November.
If I was him (thank goodness I’m not) I would own the conviction, apologise, feign repentance (yes is use that word given his base) and I’d vow to move on.
I would tell my base to forget violence and focus on winning in November.
I would appeal to those floating voters who like some of my ideas but don’t like me personally, by appearing culpable but accountable and remorseful.
His convictions are (relatively) low level white collar crime.
But the problem with Trump is that he’s divisive, narcissistic, megalomaniacal, stubborn and frankly, as thick as s**t.
@divegeester
He wears his conviction like a crown. For his supporters, his conviction is merely an affirmation of his false narrative that he's the victim.
@divegeester saidWhich is why he WILL double down.
Is not to double down.
His whole 'make me' attitude is why the judge should give him 3 years on July 11th.
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@moonbus saidIt’s difficult to get a definitive read on it, but from some info I’ve seen he will/has lost some middle ground repubs.
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He wears his conviction like a crown. For his supporters, his conviction is merely an affirmation of his false narrative that he's the victim.
Of course most of these may just abstain but it will still damage his count I would think.
Having your already entrenched base of voters even more angry and even more determined to vote for you isn’t a win.
@divegeester
And Democrat ads shoving home the point he IS a convicted felon will have great effect on moderate repubs in the coming months.
And Democrat ads showing what Biden has already done in THIS presidency, like the infrastructure bill, getting insulin down from 400 bucks to 35, or the Chips bill starting the process of making chip plants back in the US, BILLIONS spent on that bill.
We can't win just hanging on to the 34 felony counts, we have to also show what Biden has already done for common folks here in the US.
He also has to have a win in the Gaza war all the while NetenYAHOO keeps screwing up the idea of a cease fire because he KNOWS he is in deep legal trouble if things calm down enough for Israeli's to get back to HIS legal charges.
@divegeester saidI agree, I do not believe his conviction is going to expand his voter base. His conviction only inflames the pre-existing voter base.
It’s difficult to get a definitive read on it, but from some info I’ve seen he will/has lost some middle ground repubs.
Of course most of these may just abstain but it will still damage his count I would think.
Having your already entrenched base of voters even more angry and even more determined to vote for you isn’t a win.
@no1marauder said😆 assuming he doesn’t have any more porno stars to hush up 😆
Hey, his lawyers might get paid after all.
@divegeester saidAside from the fact that what you're proposing goes against his very nature, he can't "repent" from this because it's based on something that everyone has basically known about for years. If he suddenly admits that paying Stormy Daniels hush money was a crime of election interference, he's undermining many of his central narratives.
Is not to double down.
His base are slavering for violence but his conviction will have lost him votes in the moderate Republican pool. He needs to win more red moderates if he wants to win in November.
If I was him (thank goodness I’m not) I would own the conviction, apologise, feign repentance (yes is use that word given his base) and I’d vow to move on.
I w ...[text shortened]... h Trump is that he’s divisive, narcissistic, megalomaniacal, stubborn and frankly, as thick as s**t.
In any case, I'm having trouble seeing this whole incident as anything but a boon to his campaign.
Can someone please describe to me the profile of the voter who didn't already despise Trump, as is on board and on board with and impressed by this prosecution?
Feels like a unicorn to me.
@sh76
The sad part is if it was ANY democrat with this level of guilty verdicts would be SCREAMING HANG THE SOB, JUSTICE IS SERVED.
Now of course the repub world is going to be hyper focused on Hunter's court case and I have no doubt there will be Newsmax, fox and the rest of the talking heads saying if he gets off it is TOTAL political hacking by Biden.
If he gets convicted, a totally fair justice system, well, except for the Trump conviction, THAT is a perverted POS corrupt system, and the judge really is the Devil himself and the trial was just another Cuban fake trial, of course totally ignoring the mountain of evidence proving beyond a reasonable doubt BY A JURY that Trump was, is, and always will be a crook.
And people like average Joe who said right here if Trump was convicted of a crime, he would not vote for Trump but of course he was lying through his teeth, now he says there was no crime, what was the evidence, like he never followed the case and totally ignored the evidence, just PRONOUNCING the whole thing as weaponization of the DOJ system and OF COURSE started by Biden.
All this is an insult to our intelligence and a direct attack on the very system of justice that with all its faults has held our system of laws together for 200+ years till the hideous advent of Trump who has no respect for ANYTHING in our system of government.
He would tear the constitution in a paper shredder and put millions of people in concentration camps, pull out of NATO and pad the whole system with total yes men, who would have to swear loyalty to Trump and Trump alone FUK the constitution and DOJ, in other words, putting us on the road suffered by many other countries around the world, leading to a dictatorship and believe me, IT CAN HAPPEN HERE.
We are not immune to the destruction of democracy and anyone who poo poo's that is brain washed by the Trump cult, now more like the Trump religion.
@sh76 saidCan someone please describe to me the profile of the voter who didn't already despise Trump, as is on board and on board with and impressed by this prosecution? - - - Not many, that's for sure. It remains to be seen however how many swing voters will ditch him. I'll be checking the poll numbers after Labor Day for a clearer picture.
Aside from the fact that what you're proposing goes against his very nature, he can't "repent" from this because it's based on something that everyone has basically known about for years. If he suddenly admits that paying Stormy Daniels hush money was a crime of election interference, he's undermining many of his central narratives.
In any case, I'm having trouble seeing this ...[text shortened]... , as is on board and on board with and impressed by this prosecution?
Feels like a unicorn to me.
@sh76 saidI agree. It's almost like the purpose of bringing criminal charges was to prosecute crimes, not to influence an election.
Aside from the fact that what you're proposing goes against his very nature, he can't "repent" from this because it's based on something that everyone has basically known about for years. If he suddenly admits that paying Stormy Daniels hush money was a crime of election interference, he's undermining many of his central narratives.
In any case, I'm having trouble seeing this ...[text shortened]... , as is on board and on board with and impressed by this prosecution?
Feels like a unicorn to me.
@wildgrass
Except it was literally BOTH. If the story of Stormy had come out a week before the elections Hilary may have been POTUS and Trump knew that full well which is why he is a convicted felon now.