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Special counsel Jack Smith brought additional charges against Trump in connection with his retention of classified documents.
The new indictment alleges that Trump plotted to delete video from security cameras near the storage room where he had stored boxes containing classified documents, and did so after the Department of Justice subpoenaed that footage. That effort to delete the video involved a third co-conspirator, Carlos De Oliveira, who has been added to the case.

De Oliveira is a former valet at the Trump Organization’s Mar-a-Lago property who became property manager there in January 2022. Allegedly, he told another Trump employee that “the boss” wanted the server deleted and that the conversation should stay between the two of them.

In the Washington Post, legal columnist Ruth Marcus wrote, “The alleged conduct—yes, even after all these years of watching Trump flagrantly flout norms—is nothing short of jaw-dropping: Trump allegedly conspired with others to destroy evidence.” If the allegations hold up, “the former president is a common criminal—and an uncommonly stupid one.”

This superseding indictment reiterates the material from the original indictment, and as I reread it, it still blows my mind that Trump allegedly compromised national security documents from the Central Intelligence Agency, the Department of Defense, the National Security Agency, the National Geospatial Intelligence Agency (surveillance imagery), the National Reconnaissance Office (surveillance and maps), the Department of Energy (nuclear weapons), and the Department of State and Bureau of Intelligence and Research (diplomatic intelligence).

It sounds like he was a one-man wrecking ball, aimed at our national security.

The Justice Department has asked again for a protective order to protect the classified information at the heart of this case. In their request, they explained that, among other things, Trump wanted to be able to discuss that classified information with his lawyers outside a Sensitive Compartmented Information Facility, or SCIF, a room protected against electronic surveillance and data leakage.

Former deputy assistant director of the FBI’s counterintelligence division Peter Strzok noted that there is “[n]o better demonstration of Trump’s abject lack of understanding of—and disregard for—classified info and national security. He is *asking the Court* to waive the requirements for classified info that EVERY OTHER SINGLE CLEARANCE HOLDER IN THE UNITED STATES must follow.”
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Trump should've been jailed years ago, way back when court filings were made against him with Epstein when a 13 yr old accused them of raping her.

He should've been jailed for helping mobsters launder money through his casino.

He should've been jailed when he defrauded hundreds of people with a fake "university".

He should've been jailed when when stole money from his charity for personal gain.

He should've been jailed for inciting Jan 6th, pressuring Georgian officials to "find" votes, etc., etc.

Here's an article on Trump's mob ties:

https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2016/05/donald-trump-2016-mob-organized-crime-213910/

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@vivify said
Trump should've been jailed years ago, way back when court filings were made against him with Epstein when a 13 yr old accused them of raping her.

He should've been jailed for helping mobsters launder money through his casino.

He should've been jailed when he defrauded hundreds of people with a fake "university".

He should've been jailed when when stole money from ...[text shortened]... es:

https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2016/05/donald-trump-2016-mob-organized-crime-213910/
Average citizens normally face swift justice (just ask the Jan 6th goons now sitting in jail) the rich however can get their lawyers to use a variety of delay tactics. They'll eventually face justice, but even when they do, they're sentences are routinely at the extreme low end of sentencing guidelines and served in minimum security (country club) prisons with little danger of personal harm, offsite work details, much of it in lavish locations, exercise equipment, free email, and library access - and of course, no prison walls.

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Yes. Yes he should be jailed.

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@phranny said
Special counsel Jack Smith brought additional charges against Trump in connection with his retention of classified documents.
The new indictment alleges that Trump plotted to delete video from security cameras near the storage room where he had stored boxes containing classified documents, and did so after the Department of Justice subpoenaed that footage. That effort to del ...[text shortened]... o that EVERY OTHER SINGLE CLEARANCE HOLDER IN THE UNITED STATES must follow.”
Heather C. Richardson
More importantly, he should be publicly discredited. If he is only jailed, he’ll be hailed as a martyr by his supporters.

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@Phranny

https://portside.org/video/2023-06-23/re-indicted-parody-emmas-revolution

Re-indicted. Sing along.

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@phranny said
Special counsel Jack Smith brought additional charges against Trump in connection with his retention of classified documents.
The new indictment alleges that Trump plotted to delete video from security cameras near the storage room where he had stored boxes containing classified documents, and did so after the Department of Justice subpoenaed that footage. That effort to del ...[text shortened]... o that EVERY OTHER SINGLE CLEARANCE HOLDER IN THE UNITED STATES must follow.”
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Anybody else? Just asking for a friend

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@averagejoe1 said
Anybody else? Just asking for a friend
You have frienda? With that winning personality?

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@shavixmir said
You have frienda? With that winning personality?
Many but sadly, liberal types give me a queasy feeling. And they get angry in a heartbeat. Was at dinner party, a friend’s home, and the subject of politics arose, a guest stormed out the front door, with milquetoast husband in tow. Wow. Didn’t finish her dinner. So, do you think we were concerned, or did we chuckle our way through the evening? And everyone checked their wallets!! She went home and, I guess, chewed on her pillow. She sad, we happy. Kinda like the forum.

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@shavixmir said
Yes. Yes he should be jailed.
Certainly, if he broke the law. But, just askin’, there are other law breakers in DC, should they go to jail, orJust Trump? You will not answer this question.

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@phranny said
Special counsel Jack Smith brought additional charges against Trump in connection with his retention of classified documents.
The new indictment alleges that Trump plotted to delete video from security cameras near the storage room where he had stored boxes containing classified documents, and did so after the Department of Justice subpoenaed that footage. That effort to del ...[text shortened]... o that EVERY OTHER SINGLE CLEARANCE HOLDER IN THE UNITED STATES must follow.”
Heather C. Richardson
Peter Strzok ???!?!?!?!?????!?!!!?!???!!!!!!!!
Do you what you are saying?!?!?!???? Hahaha

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@averagejoe1 said
Certainly, if he broke the law. But, just askin’, there are other law breakers in DC, should they go to jail, orJust Trump? You will not answer this question.
All law breakers, whether Dem or Rep, should be locked up.

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Do I have friends , you ask? I would venture that she would be the one with no friends. Tell me, would you ever storm out of a dinner party on a simple discussion about disagreement on daily facts? Quite rude to the hostess, I might add. Of course y’all are never rude here on the forum. But angry, oh my goodness yes.

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@averagejoe1 said
Certainly, if he broke the law. But, just askin’, there are other law breakers in DC, should they go to jail, orJust Trump? You will not answer this question.
If convicted of felonies, yes, jail is usual sentence. However, judges have discretion, they can sentence a convicted felon to some other punishment, particularly if the accused shows genuine remorse. In Trump’s case, I doubt he ever felt anything genuine; he’s a shallow, egocentric man, all sizzle, no steak.

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@Phranny

Phranny, Donald Trump should be above the law.

Oh, and nice wall-of-text, Phranny.

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