Trump Should be Jailed

@vivify said
Trump got the second most votes in U.S. history. He had *more* votes after four years of chaos, racism and countless falsehoods.

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/more-than-1-million-voters-switch-to-gop-raising-alarm-for-democrats

This article, released only 3 days after Roe v. Wade was overturned, says that 1 million people across 43 states switched to the Repub ...[text shortened]... publican-wins-primary-jail-1349119/

You think the GOP gives a god damn if Trump goes to prison?

I don't care what the GOP 'thinks". The second most votes means he lost to the first most votes and it wasn't terribly close except for our bizarre Electoral College system. And political developments in the crucial swing States Trump would have to win have only cut the other way - Republicans have lost ground in Wisconsin, Pennsylvania and Michigan and suffered election setbacks in Arizona and Georgia.

You watch Fox News too much; the chances that a conviction for a felony wouldn't spell doom in a national general election (and for a candidate who is already seen in a negative light by a majority of voters) is slim if not none.

I won $50 for the local Boys and Girls Club from another poster here when I bet Trump would lose in 2020. I am certainly willing to make the same bet IF Republicans are stupid enough to nominate him again which they probably will be.

@shavixmir said
Stop calling me a liberal.
Socialist or communist, those are the words you could use.

And, ohhhh sooooo sooorrrryyy if I offend your delicate sensibilities.
But, as demonstrated, you’re the snowflake type who leaves dinner parties, not me. Not liberals. Not real conservatives (of whom I know plenty, and have great discussions with).

But you are not a fiscal conserv ...[text shortened]... u, yourself, can do to adapt.

Welcome to 2023 in the world of MAGA.

Snowflaking the day away.

Hey Average Joe…

Just thought I’d remind you’ll of this here post. I wouldn’t want folk thinkin’ you’re scurrying away from the dinner table, unable to respond…

Stop calling me a liberal.
Socialist or communist, those are the words you could use.

And, ohhhh sooooo sooorrrryyy if I offend your delicate sensibilities.
But, as demonstrated, you’re the snowflake type who leaves dinner parties, not me. Not liberals. Not real conservatives (of whom I know plenty, and have great discussions with).

But you are not a fiscal conservative.
You are a whining little maggot. A bigot. Constantly mixing up morals, religious beliefs and ethics with financial systems; indoctrinated by fear mongering and hate; unable to face the changing world.

A coward. Always blaming others, instead of looking to see what you, yourself, can do to adapt.

Welcome to 2023 in the world of MAGA.

Snowflaking the day away.

@no1marauder said
I don't care what the GOP 'thinks". The second most votes means he lost to the first most votes and it wasn't terribly close except for our bizarre Electoral College system. And political developments in the crucial swing States Trump would have to win have only cut the other way - Republicans have lost ground in Wisconsin, Pennsylvania and Michigan and suffered election ...[text shortened]... ake the same bet IF Republicans are stupid enough to nominate him again which they probably will be.

That 7 million figure you keep quoting is misleading.

The race was indeed close. 3 states (Wisconsin, Georgia and Arizona) were were decided by a margin of less than one percent. Had Trump won them he would've been reelected. Trump was only 43,000 votes from a 2nd term.

Again: I don't see Trump winning but there's still no reason to act like he's not a viable threat in 2024, prison or not.

@vivify said
That 7 million figure you keep quoting is misleading.

The race was indeed close. 3 states (Wisconsin, Georgia and Arizona) were were decided by a margin of less than one percent. Had Trump won them he would've been reelected. Trump was only 43,000 votes from a 2nd term.

Again: I don't see Trump winning but there's still no reason to act like he's not a viable threat in 2024, prison or not.

The money says that he " is " a viable threat.

https://www.sportsbet.com.au/betting/politics/us-politics/us-presidential-election-2024-5479667

Here in Aussie land, anyways.

Of course this will change as time goes by as these are live, at the moment it is:
Joe Biden $2.80, Donald Trump $3.30, Kennedy and Ron Desantis $10.00 each

@shavixmir said
Hey Average Joe…

Just thought I’d remind you’ll of this here post. I wouldn’t want folk thinkin’ you’re scurrying away from the dinner table, unable to respond…

Stop calling me a liberal.
Socialist or communist, those are the words you could use.

And, ohhhh sooooo sooorrrryyy if I offend your delicate sensibilities.
But, as demonstrated, you’re the snow ...[text shortened]... lf, can do to adapt.

Welcome to 2023 in the world of MAGA.

Snowflaking the day away.

Sorry, do not get your point. You suggest that you are not a liberal, I think. I beg to differ.

@vivify said
That 7 million figure you keep quoting is misleading.

The race was indeed close. 3 states (Wisconsin, Georgia and Arizona) were were decided by a margin of less than one percent. Had Trump won them he would've been reelected. Trump was only 43,000 votes from a 2nd term.

Again: I don't see Trump winning but there's still no reason to act like he's not a viable threat in 2024, prison or not.

has anyone ever explained why the election counting was STOPPED and later resumed?

Our constitution calls for an election DAY, not dayS

@vivify said
That 7 million figure you keep quoting is misleading.

The race was indeed close. 3 states (Wisconsin, Georgia and Arizona) were were decided by a margin of less than one percent. Had Trump won them he would've been reelected. Trump was only 43,000 votes from a 2nd term.

Again: I don't see Trump winning but there's still no reason to act like he's not a viable threat in 2024, prison or not.

I said "it wasn't terribly close except for our bizarre Electoral College system", so what exactly was "misleading"?

Since that election, Democrats defeated Trump backed Senate candidates by about 100,000 votes in Georgia and 125,000 in Arizona. While Ron Johnson eked out a win in Wisconsin, after Roe v. Wade was overturned a progressive Democrat crushed a Republican for a seat on the state's Supreme Court by more than 10%.

And all that is before Trump's indictments and likely convictions.

@averagejoe1 said
Sorry, do not get your point. You suggest that you are not a liberal, I think. I beg to differ.

Retard.

@vivify said
That 7 million figure you keep quoting is misleading.

The race was indeed close. 3 states (Wisconsin, Georgia and Arizona) were were decided by a margin of less than one percent. Had Trump won them he would've been reelected. Trump was only 43,000 votes from a 2nd term.

Again: I don't see Trump winning but there's still no reason to act like he's not a viable threat in 2024, prison or not.

Tell us why Trump won't win. Just curious, your dislike being irrelevant. You know Biden is wasting away, right before our eyes, so who will beat Trump?

@jimmac said
The money says that he " is " a viable threat.

https://www.sportsbet.com.au/betting/politics/us-politics/us-presidential-election-2024-5479667

Here in Aussie land, anyways.

Of course this will change as time goes by as these are live, at the moment it is:
Joe Biden $2.80, Donald Trump $3.30, Kennedy and Ron Desantis $10.00 each

Cool sports bet. Keep us posted each week? Can you believe we are only 15 months away. As a betting man, you are undoubtedly eyeing our markets if Trump wins. I am sure you are in cash right now. Me, too.

@shavixmir said
Retard.

No, not a retard. Just a liberal. Like Suzianne, and Kev, for example.

@averagejoe1 said
Tell us why Trump won't win. Just curious, your dislike being irrelevant. You know Biden is wasting away, right before our eyes, so who will beat Trump?

Himself.

@no1marauder said
I said "it wasn't terribly close except for our bizarre Electoral College system", so what exactly was "misleading"?

Since that election, Democrats defeated Trump backed Senate candidates by about 100,000 votes in Georgia and 125,000 in Arizona. While Ron Johnson eked out a win in Wisconsin, after Roe v. Wade was overturned a progressive Democrat crushed a Repub ...[text shortened]... Court by more than 10%.

And all that is before Trump's indictments and likely convictions.

The omnipotent Marauder calls the ElecCollege bizarre. I do not see on google where anyone with any IQ calls it bizarre. Uphill battle for Marauder on that one. It Makes sense to me. If one but looks at the pros and cons, they EC makes perfect sense. Without it, people in WY would not vote. Don't you get it? People in WY would never be heard from again, they would just send their taxes to govt who would use it to upgrade subway systems 1000 miles away. Jesus.

@no1marauder said
I said "it wasn't terribly close except for our bizarre Electoral College system", so what exactly was "misleading"?

Since that election, Democrats defeated Trump backed Senate candidates by about 100,000 votes in Georgia and 125,000 in Arizona. While Ron Johnson eked out a win in Wisconsin, after Roe v. Wade was overturned a progressive Democrat crushed a Repub ...[text shortened]... Court by more than 10%.

And all that is before Trump's indictments and likely convictions.

If the states where abortion is restricted or (pending restriction) stick with the GOP in 2024, Trump will win.

But we'll see.

@averagejoe1 said
The omnipotent Marauder calls the ElecCollege bizarre. I do not see on google where anyone with any IQ calls it bizarre. Uphill battle for Marauder on that one. It Makes sense to me. If one but looks at the pros and cons, they EC makes perfect sense. Without it, people in WY would not vote. Don't you get it? People in WY would never be heard from again, they would just send their taxes to govt who would use it to upgrade subway systems 1000 miles away. Jesus.

Actually it's exactly the opposite; if the election was decided by popular vote, a person's vote in Wyoming would mean the same as everyone else's. Now it and the votes of the vast majority of voters mean absolutely nothing as any reasonably close Presidential elections are decided by a small group of "swing" States, so the voters in other States have virtually no say.

The changes to the EC since the Constitution was adopted have made it bear no resemblance to what the Framers intended i.e. a small group of electors deciding who the most qualified person to be President was. Since it doesn't even accomplish what it was originally designed to do, is antiquated and no other country has such a system to say it is "bizarre" is accurate.