@sonhouse saidYour post is incorrect, so impossible to answer. Anhd, If you stuck to one issue instead of a tome, you would garner more thought. Can't think.
@Metal-Brain
Are you kidding? You think it is just FINE to completely and fundamentally change the power of the president to now EXACTLY the same now as Putin where the POTUS can assassinate ANYONE and call it an official act? How could that POSSIBLY be a good thing? SCOTUS has LITTERALLY made first Biden RIGHT NOW a king and if Trump gets in or if Biden wins again, it is K ...[text shortened]... ith one ruling.
It is LITERALLY the darkest day in American history, MUCH worse than the civil war.
@sonhouse saidDidn't presidents always have that power? Since it was never challenged before I think so.
@Metal-Brain
Are you kidding? You think it is just FINE to completely and fundamentally change the power of the president to now EXACTLY the same now as Putin where the POTUS can assassinate ANYONE and call it an official act? How could that POSSIBLY be a good thing? SCOTUS has LITTERALLY made first Biden RIGHT NOW a king and if Trump gets in or if Biden wins again, it is K ...[text shortened]... ith one ruling.
It is LITERALLY the darkest day in American history, MUCH worse than the civil war.
https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2014/mar/19/kesha-rogers/four-us-citizens-killed-obama-drone-strikes-3-were/
Was Obama held responsible for killing 3 innocent Americans out of 4 in a drone strike without any legal due process?
@sonhouse saidYou see,,this is not true.
@Metal-Brain
Are you kidding? You think it is just FINE to completely and fundamentally change the power of the president to now EXACTLY the same now as Putin where the POTUS can assassinate ANYONE and call it an official act?
And I find it ironic that you say that "I thinnk it is just fine to fundamentally change the power of the President".
Sonhouse, your man Obama actually used that exact word, 'to fundamentally change America', he said that, I think to Joe the Plumber while campaigning.
So, Hey Sonhouse..."You think it is just FINE TO COMPLETELY AND FUNDAMENTALLY" change something about our country. You and Obama. So weird. You were OK w Obama saying let us change (make us socialist), but you are NOT Ok with a government branch saying what they did in their decision.
Let's just let that settle. After all, there is nothing else to say.
@Metal-Brain saidSonhouse, can you answer this for MB. No tomes, please.
Didn't presidents always have that power? Since it was never challenged before I think so.
https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2014/mar/19/kesha-rogers/four-us-citizens-killed-obama-drone-strikes-3-were/
Was Obama held responsible for killing 3 innocent Americans out of 4 in a drone strike without any legal due process?
@AverageJoe1
I don't know if your answer about POTUS power now that even as we speak BIDEN IS A KING, and that would be the same for Trump.
I don't know if you are so abysmally stupid you can't understand what just happened or you are PLEASED to see Trump LITERALLY be a king.
@Metal-Brain
The thing to remember is when the founding fathers fought the revolutionary war it was to throw off the idea we would be run by a king where the president does NOT have unlimited power for the express reason to stop the president from abusing his power by being totally above the law.
The way US law works, well WORKED till SCOTUS completely fukkked it up is NOBODY is above the law INCLUDING the president,
As we have seen where Trump has been convicted what, 4 times already, including criminal felony counts. If Trump is reelected those kind of court cases would never even START.
Don't you get it? SCOTUS now proclaims POTUS is LITERALLY above the law and it is a direct result of decades of planning by outfits like the heritage foundation whose goal is to totally upend democracy and install a dictator and they just won.
@AverageJoe1
This is you THINKING? You best review the actual ruling and you will be horrified if you have the guts to actually read it.
It has already made the rounds of ALL the news networks, I bet even Fox has shown how Trump would literally be a king if reelected, and of course THOSE assshole would approve.
And I suppose you would also approve of Trump being literally a king and would fluk things up so bad in our government there would NEVER be real elections again.
If you can't understand that you are WAY dumber than I ever thought.
@sonhouse saidActually I agree that Trump should not have immunity, personally or officially as POTUS. No president should, including Obama. Obama, Bush and all the other murderers should be held accountable for their actions officially as well.
@Metal-Brain
The thing to remember is when the founding fathers fought the revolutionary war it was to throw off the idea we would be run by a king where the president does NOT have unlimited power for the express reason to stop the president from abusing his power by being totally above the law.
The way US law works, well WORKED till SCOTUS completely fukkked it up is NOB ...[text shortened]... ritage foundation whose goal is to totally upend democracy and install a dictator and they just won.
Obama got away with murder of 4 Americans without due process. 3 of which were innocent! Do you think Michelle will do things any differently than her husband?
@Metal-Brain
FUKKK talking about OBAMA, TRUMP WILL BE KING.
https://www.cnn.com/2024/07/01/politics/video/justice-sotomayor-supreme-court-trump-immunity-descision-tapper-digvid
If you really want to know the depth of the water SCOTUS has just pushed us in, WATCH THIS VIDEO, it shows Sotomayor giving her dissent, and usually they go 'respectfully dissent' but her dissent says 'DISSENT' and dissent alone with no 'respectfully', which shows just how pissed she is about this total change of the power of POTUS and yes, Trump WOULD BE KING with ZERO accountability for ANY action he takes, INCLUDING MURDER or ordering DOJ to arrest ANYONE, INCLUDING those in the house who impeached him, he is after revenge and has said so quite clearly, you remember the line 'I will be YOUR restitution'?
The YOUR is 100% TOTAL BS, it really needs to be read "I will by MY avengement'
and nothing more.
If he is elected again that is EXACTLY what he will do because he now will have EXACTLY THAT, TOTAL IMMUNITY.
@sonhouse saidNot if Biden resigns and the dictators in your party select Michelle Obama.
@Metal-Brain
FUKKK talking about OBAMA, TRUMP WILL BE KING.
https://www.cnn.com/2024/07/01/politics/video/justice-sotomayor-supreme-court-trump-immunity-descision-tapper-digvid
If you really want to know the depth of the water SCOTUS has just pushed us in, WATCH THIS VIDEO, it shows Sotomayor giving her dissent, and usually they go 'respectfully dissent' but her dissent ...[text shortened]... elected again that is EXACTLY what he will do because he now will have EXACTLY THAT, TOTAL IMMUNITY.
She can beat Trump according to polls.
All you have to do is surrender democracy to the privately owned corporation you worship. Give up the primary election to a privately owned corporation and they will select Michelle to your rescue from that evil dictator Trump.
@sonhouse saidBut, above what law? What specific law Does The Scotus Say He Is Above!??! You are too general, you are upset and angry and I cannot get a handle
@Metal-Brain
The thing to remember is when the founding fathers fought the revolutionary war it was to throw off the idea we would be run by a king where the president does NOT have unlimited power for the express reason to stop the president from abusing his power by being totally above the law.
The way US law works, well WORKED till SCOTUS completely fukkked it up is NOB ...[text shortened]... ritage foundation whose goal is to totally upend democracy and install a dictator and they just won.
@sonhouse saidPLEASE!!! If you keep saying that the dam oragne hair will be king you will lose your audience. You say it as if you think we should take your comment to the bank.
@Metal-Brain
FUKKK talking about OBAMA, TRUMP WILL BE KING.
https://www.cnn.com/2024/07/01/politics/video/justice-sotomayor-supreme-court-trump-immunity-descision-tapper-digvid
If you really want to know the depth of the water SCOTUS has just pushed us in, WATCH THIS VIDEO, it shows Sotomayor giving her dissent, and usually they go 'respectfully dissent' but her dissent ...[text shortened]... elected again that is EXACTLY what he will do because he now will have EXACTLY THAT, TOTAL IMMUNITY.
@Metal-Brain saidHey, dipsh--, they already have immunity against official acts while they are in office. If you want to extend this to when they are out of office, then you can allow even official acts (like Trump's upcoming 'Kristallnacht' ) to be liable to prosecution.
Are you saying presidents should not have any immunity at all?
If you disagree with the decision that is fine. You have a right to that opinion. I just want to know what you specifically disagree with?
Does it set a horrible precedent?
You shouldn't be able to have it both ways, like dictators do. You people are way too busy trying to tear down the guardrails limiting actions of a demagogue. You'll have your way over our dead bodies.
@Metal-Brain saidGood one, MB. He will not uderstand what you mean by dems being such a corporation. SHouse will be talking Kingship for sure when Michelle sets up shop.
Not if Biden resigns and the dictators in your party select Michelle Obama.
She can beat Trump according to polls.
All you have to do is surrender democracy to the privately owned corporation you worship. Give up the primary election to a privately owned corporation and they will select Michelle to your rescue from that evil dictator Trump.
It will be Michelle. No question. Barack thinks he was sent by God to lead his children, and he is not thinking about giving it up, being so close to the prize.
@AverageJoe1 saidWhy don't you just stop posting here then, if everything we type is over your little pinhead?
Your post is incorrect, so impossible to answer. Anhd, If you stuck to one issue instead of a tome, you would garner more thought. Can't think.